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15 hours ago, gotbeer said:

BTW.  Anyone notice that in the Calder Cup Tourney, it's Reign vs Gulls?  Reign currently has a 2-1 lead in the series. 

They should televise that Friday instead of the Angels game...would be a lot more entertaining. 

On the plus side, in 2021 we will be paying Pujols 30M. 

Fuck, I really wanted game 7 between the Caps and Pens.  

I hope the Ducks win in 6 in either case!

What happens if the Ducks have a 3-2 series lead going into game 6 in Minny next year?  

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Until you realize you can't get anywhere near fair value for him.  I'll ask you, what kind of annual WAR would you expect back in a trade.  Remember you are giving up 9.  

What is the WAR of unloading the Pujols contract?  I'm actually curious as to what value that brings the Angels because it would be a big factor in the Trout trade.  Assuming Arte never wants to break the luxury tax threshold, that contract is much more devastating to the Angels than it would be to the Dodgers who seem to not really care about spending if it would net them a player like trout.  The Angels essentially have 2 options at this point if they do not want to surpass the luxury tax threshold:

1.  Trade every player of value that will no longer be cheap and/or on the team in 2019.  Pray that the little value we have in those players pans out enough to where we can fill in the holes on our team in the FA offseason going into 2019.  

2.  Trade Trout in a trade where you can unload Pujols and his entire contract and get 5-6 young controllable assets (probably not realistic but who knows what the Dodgers would be willing to do).  Trade all others of value who will not be here on + value contracts beyond the 2017 season.  

I think option 2 gives the Angels a much better chance at being a playoff team by getting the Pujols contract off the books and getting solid prospects/major league ready talent.  That being said, option 1 has the chance to be successful but management needs to realize that trying to win in 2017 and 2018 is useless.  Sign a bunch of players to 1 year deals in each of those seasons and trade them at the deadline for future assets.  In fact, the Angels should sign Lincecum now, not to help the team this year, but to hope that he has a great 2 months and trade him at the deadline for future assets.  If the Angels are essentially viewing the luxury tax as a hard salary cap, they need to take a page out of the Ducks handbook and get young controllable assets.  

Also, it has to be taken into consideration that Trout has been much more valuable to the Angels in the past and for next season while his salary is still reasonable.  Trout is much less valueable on a per dollar basis in 2018 when he will be making 34M/yr for the next 3 years.  It will still be a valuable contract, but not nearly as valuable as it has been in the past or as valuable as it is with this years salary of 16M.

NBA is a star league, MLB is a team league.  Sure there will be some people that come out to see Mike Trout play, but the majority of the fan base wants to go and see the Angels win.  If the Angels win (and aren't ridiculous with their ticketing prices/policies) the stadium will be full.  The majority of people don't want to go to a game in August when the Angels are 15GB even with Mike Trout on the team.  If the Angels were 1 game up on the division in August without Mike Trout, many people would be wanting to go to the Angel game.  That being said, I would absolutely trade Trout for the right package (that package including taking salary off of our hands and a boatload of prospects/major league ready players).  Pretty much only the Dodgers can offer that package...if Trout has to be in Dodger blue so the Angels are in the playoffs in 2018, so be it.  

The turning point in Pujols' career was clearly the handshake from Scott.

What a game between the Preds and Sharks...where was shitty Rinne during the Ducks series?

Wow Stars hold on to win.  Blues out shot them 37 to 14 in the game.  

Yeah, I have no problem with that take down.

OMG sick pass to set up the Blues goal...1 goal game with 10 min left.  

Preds Sharks game is very entertaining so far.  Blues have been dominating the play but are down 3-1 right now, hopefully they get one to make it an exciting finish. 

Between Ramsay, Euron Greyjoy finally showing up, and Tyrion interacting with the dragons, plus the ending ... last nights episode was just awesome.

Tyrion interacting with the Dragons was phenomenal! 

Well that made up for the shitty first episode.  Ramsey is a BAMF.

i remember seeing them working on the new stadium when i was out there for the mayweather/pacquiao fight.

i hear its just about done and it's insane.

stoked for that franchise.

 

what's the team name going to be?

black aces?

It's done, there have been a few concerts there already.  The black aces would be an awesome name.  Could also be the spades.  

This Caps Pens series is going to be phenomenal.  Game 1 was not a let down.

anyone else left wondering what might have happened had the kings won the division and the ducks finished second? 

 

i'm not advocating anything, but i can't help but wonder if the first round series for each of us might have played out differently had our positions in the standings been switched.

 

i hope that doesn't make me sound like a dick. just curious.

I absolutely was thinking this when both teams started off in an 0-2 hole.  I didn't like the Sharks match up for the Kings because the Sharks had to ****ing want that series win so badly with the history between the 2 teams.  It seems like the Ducks didn't take the Predators as a serious opponent to begin with and by time they did it was too late.  With how San Jose finished the season I don't think the Ducks would've taken them lightly.  Who knows how it would've turned out but it couldn't be worse than both so cal teams being out.  

I saw that, so funny!

The thing is, you don't need the best players to win. You just need the ones who will actually show up and do their job. I mean look at the teams left in the playoffs. Some of the depth players are stepping up and going nuts. Scoring goals at will. Some guys just know how to win. IF we had the chance to dump Perry or Getzlaf's contract on a team and get maybe just a pick or a player out of it, I'd consider that a win. Addition by subraction. Build around others. Sign other FAs with the saved money. Easier said than done and a lot has to fall into place for sure though. I do think Fowler gets shipped out though. We can get a pretty damn good deal for him. I've also thought Vatanen would for sure be gone but he played very well. It wouldn't surprise me if he stays.

I think Fowler should definitely be the Dman traded.  Gotta lock up Sami and Lindholm long term.  

Hate to say I told you so, Bob... but I ****ing told you so. We will never win a Cup so long as Getzlaf and Perry are the core of this team. Talented as hell but no clutch factor or determination factor when it counts.

 

 

You can't place this on Bruce entirely. Reading some of the arguments in here calling for his firing is quite laughable. Sure, he's not the best coach in the league and some stuff you can argue is on him but this is all on the players. When you have guys like Despres and Fowler sucking it up game in and game out along with a rookie Theodore, things aren't going to go well. I can't count how many times I saw Fowler fumble a puck at the blue line and have it leave the zone. He was BAD. Not Despres/Theodore bad but ****ing bad. Kesler and Garbutt were honestly the only two damn forwards that showed up in this series. hampus and Sami on the D side were the only consistent blue line pairing. Getzlaf and Perry tho. **** them. They need to go. Like I said, I truly believe we will never get over this hump with those two running the show in Anaheim. Unfortunately, they're 31, have NMCs, and will never waive it most likely. We're screwed with these two.

You certainly did.  I don't know who else we could possibly get that would be better than Getz/Perry so we are stuck with them whether you like it or not.  Love Kesler, he is the reason I still think the team has a shot.  I don't think this is on Bruce at all, this is squarely on the shoulders of the players, mainly Getz, Perry, Fowler.  

If being down 2-0 after the 1st is your idea of showing up, I hope that's not the Ducks that show up next time there is a Game 7 

Sometimes the scoreboard does not reflect how the team is playing. 

I agree with Underthehalo's view of the game.   I couldn't do anything but laugh on my drive home.  Ducks showed up and still can't win a game 7.  Oh well, at least the Halos swept the Royals.  It's now officially MLB season for me.

Let the drinking commence!  LET'S GO DUCKS!!! Win this ****ing home game 7 for once!

That video is all kinds of awesome.