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13 hours ago, Dochalo said:

Fewer games played over the same time frame as normal doesn't solve the issue that the owners have.  For them it's about butts in chairs.  That would actually make it worse unless the players agree to get paid less money which they won't.  

For the owners, it's all about setting up the timing so there is an opportunity to pack the stadiums during the regular season and spring training facilities during feb/mar.  

The players just want to start getting paid as soon as possible.  

Agreed at the end of the day it all comes down to money. Players don’t want another cut in their salary and neither do the owners. 

56 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Well I never said not real baseball, I said it would be less of a real season than last year.  The beauty of a baseball season is it is a grind, it is a marathon.  I didn’t mind the uniqueness of last year, but I certainly wouldn’t want some 4-5 game a week nonsense.  I mean, why stop with 4-5 games a week?  We could just play once a week, only give them a 12 man roster and they could just play on Friday nights.  That way we don’t really have to worry about who our 2nd or 3rd starters are.  We wouldn’t have to worry Albert because the most he could play is once a week.  We might even be able to see if we could cut it back to 5 inning games once a week.  You want less games in a season, that is fine, just do it during less weeks.  Hell I would be completely fine if they did something similar to the Japanese League where they take every Monday off.  

You literally said “it wouldn’t be real baseball” but now your just being overly dramatic 1 game a week. 4 games a week or 5 is a good compromise and they usually play 6

49 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Because it completely changes the make up of a season and of a roster.  It is more of a real season to play 60 games the way they did in 2020 than to play 4 games a week for 25 weeks which gives you 100 games.  You would only need 4 starting pitchers, you could use the bullpen completely different.  You can probably get away with more roster manipulation, since right now a player has to be down for 10 days before he is called up, so some pitcher can start on Monday and be sent down and make a start late the following week.  It just wouldn’t be real baseball.  

What’s bad about that? Changes everything. I think it would make it even better. The better people playing more games. Being fresher etc. I think that would be an awesome new way baseball could go. Hell if 4 games is your bother what about 5 games with one team 25 weeks. Would and could make things that much more interesting. You play each pitcher in the rotation than two days off and start again. Could be cool. 100 games is better than 60 and better than 162 in my opinion. Unless they are shooting hoops in between innings for runs or something like that it’s still baseball so I don’t know how it wouldn’t be considered in your opinion “real” baseball. Is the NL or AL more real baseball or less? Is a 7 inning double header real baseball? 

4 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

The big difference is the NFL derives a far higher percentage of its revenue from television than MLB does.

Correct. Nationally baseball isn’t very relevant. Locally they’re a big draw. But most of these teams have big tv contracts or will have big tv contracts. 

5 hours ago, Stradling said:

If you are going to shorten the season you don’t do it by having them play one series a week.   You shorten it by shortening the length of the season. 

It’s an easy fix play 4 games once a week be safe easy peasy I don’t know why that would be a bad idea? Just because you don’t get baseball every day? If your complaining well football only plays once a week. That’s an easy and simple solution. 

3 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

And football had the benefit of being a fall sport, when restrictions were loosened.

San Francisco begs to differ. They’ve had loosened regulations and lock down regulations. There’s no national anything. State by state and city by city. Florida and Arizona are open California not so much. 49ers are playing in Arizona. They’ve adapted. 

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

Football is once a week, baseball is daily.  There’s a huge difference in that. 

Sure. But they’re a contact sport with more players they got rules and regulations. Baseball could be one series a week. Cut the season down. No one needs 162 games of it. Start the season on time. Do 3 or 4 game series once a week rinse wash test go to the next week. Season fixed. 

5 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

This is Boras' way of calling out Manfred for being a garbage commissioner. Rob's job is to be the CEO of MLB and to navigate the league towards a more prosperous future. He isn't supposed to be drowning in 'legislating the game' this is just a byproduct of how ownership views the league and the position of commissioner. 

Baseball is an old dinosaur. Last year was actually fun with the expanded playoffs universal DH and extra innings/double header implementations. But baseball will find some way to revert back to its roots of old slow and dated because well baseball. I hope I’m wrong. 

On 12/15/2020 at 10:58 AM, Inside Pitch said:

Aaaaaaand so it starts...     Get ready for more squabbling about length of season, playoff game money, and a June start.

Football is playing a full schedule baseball could barely get off their ass last season, and that’s why they are king of the sports world. If I was a betting man I’d wager they play a similar amount of games as last year maybe a handful more but there’s no way baseball plays all 162. 

I used to be optimistic about the whole thing. I no longer am. If left to our own choices baseball fans will go back to games sit in stands and enjoy baseball again by the thousands. It would probably be the highest attendance we’ve ever seen by a year. But the governments that control said things won’t let it happen. So I think it’ll be more games than last year but much less than 162 I’d say it’ll probably be closer to 100 or so with no fans. California teams may have to play in another state as will some other states teams like New York etc. 

2 hours ago, UndertheHalo said:

Ya very cool.  I hope they do it.  
 

as far as the Indians, it’s a big who care from me.  I do wonder whether the people who actually matter on the topic - native Americans - called for this in any substantial way.  It seems like an excess answering a call from people who don’t matter on the issue.  Anyway.  The Spiders would be cooler anyway.  

This is 100% done by the outrage of middle America looking to be upset about something. Rage! America bad everyone else good. But not outraged at the millions of Muslims being sent to concentration camps in China. Look the other way be upset at random names and things that happened 100s of years ago, not actual things happening now. Nope way too much energy for that shit. 

Bauer Angels 6 years 125

Realmuto Angels 5 100

I like this restructuring. I’d be ok if it just went to A, AA and AAA but whatever works. I can’t believe teams actually had 6 and 7 teams just insanity. I got to get me a Salt Lake Bees and Trash Pandas hat soon though. 

Just now, vladdy#27 said:

This could fill two holes.

1 hour ago, T.G. said:

Actually, you made a poopie.

As always you are and forever will be a FF. Good day sir. Hope you enjoy this wonderful Tuesday. 

23 minutes ago, T.G. said:

You guys are doing it again

FF

24 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Ok, let me rephrase.  Why would Philly do that?  Here’s a hint, they wouldn’t. 

I know they wouldn’t I don’t think they would I was just making a funny. 

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Why would they do that?

Just now, Lou said:

Because we need someone to play RF.

Exactly. I’m bored in quarantine that’s the answer. 

Trade for Harper and make the Phillies eat half his salary.

Hotlanta! 

Bauer for 10 mil Snell for 10 Mil Harper for 10 Mil Trade for Lindor for free while Cleveland pays his entire salary. 

Winning cures everything. Win and Arte will be happy go lucky, if the team losses consistently like they have the last 5 years he won't be. Simple. Owners like to win and make money pretty simple. 

Good signing. I like upgrading the pen. 

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Another year of Covid and another year of cutting the cord and yea, team prices will come down. 

If they come down they will come down for a half a minute and be back up. Sports is the only thing that is selling on live tv. 

12 hours ago, Jay said:

If I was Arte I would sell the team and cash out.

 

Why? The cash stream is still there and it doesn’t seem like team prices are going down anytime soon.