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So then what was with all those BS trades at the end of the season? Who were they trying to impress? 

So, if Arte knew he wasn't going to re-sign Ohtani, then WTF did he not allow Perry to trade him?
 
Fucking Arte...

The part I don't get is why Spring Training games are excluded from this. Why not turn it on a month earlier?
 Not complaining, I've been taking advantage of this for years.
 

Remind me again how much money the Angels are paying him to "give back to the game?"
 

True. 
But my point is that Arte's personal vibes haven't served the team well in the past - and he needs to stay the eff away from personnel decisions.  Leave that to the GM, the manager, and even the players.  
 

Really, that's the only question worth asking - if Washington and/or the players don't want him, it's a dead horse.  They have to live with him for 162, we don't - they get the full veto - I respect that.  
Sure, he's an ass - but newsflash, a *lot* of professional athletes are asses.  
But If the staff and players are ok with him, under whatever conditions, and think he can help them win, and is willing to sign up to some rules of conduct, sign him.
And cut him the instant he acts out.
But if this is just Arte saying "no" 'cause he doesn't like him, I can only say, once again, gfy.  This isn't Hamilton, who cratered the team with an expensive long-term deal.  

Really, that's the only question worth asking - if Washington and/or the players don't want him, it's a dead horse.  They have to live with him for 162, we don't - they get the full veto - I respect that.  
Sure, he's an ass - but newsflash, a *lot* of professional athletes are asses.  
But If the staff and players are ok with him, under whatever conditions, and think he can help them win, and is willing to sign up to some rules of conduct, sign him.
And cut him the instant he acts out.
But if this is just Arte saying "no" 'cause he doesn't like him, I can only say, once again, gfy.  This isn't Hamilton, who cratered the team with an expensive long-term deal.  

Really, that's the only question worth asking - if Washington and/or the players don't want him, it's a dead horse.  They have to live with him for 162, we don't - they get the full veto - I respect that.  
Sure, he's an ass - but newsflash, a *lot* of professional athletes are asses.  
But If the staff and players are ok with him, under whatever conditions, and think he can help them win, and is willing to sign up to some rules of conduct, sign him.
And cut him the instant he acts out.
But if this is just Arte saying "no" 'cause he doesn't like him, I can only say, once again, gfy.  This isn't Hamilton, who cratered the team with an expensive long-term deal.  

Really, that's the only question worth asking - if Washington and/or the players don't want him, it's a dead horse.  They have to live with him for 162, we don't - they get the full veto - I respect that.  
Sure, he's an ass - but newsflash, a *lot* of professional athletes are asses.  
But If the staff and players are ok with him, under whatever conditions, and think he can help them win, and is willing to sign up to some rules of conduct, sign him.
And cut him the instant he acts out.
But if this is just Arte saying "no" 'cause he doesn't like him, I can only say, once again, gfy.  This isn't Hamilton, who cratered the team with an expensive long-term deal.  

Like I've stated previously...
We've had assholes on the team before.
IF the asshole can help you win. You figure out a way!
Were Lackey, Weaver assholes? Did they want to stay in the game? Did they hold the offense and their teammates accountable? Coaching staff? Did they do their own training and throwing programs?
Same asshole different game. Dude is still a competitor. 

That's fair if that's your stance, but I want to add a quality arm to this team. That and the fact that he's being blackballed just add to my interest in engaging in this topic. 
But to @tdawg87's point. If the club brought in some of the core guys of the team and asked them how they would feel about adding Trevor Bauer to the team and they rejected it, that's fine by me. I don't want a divided clubhouse. 

Sort of makes me think of a giant greenhouse.  

Give up the dream, boys.... You're just gonna get "Buttercupped" ... something something, unfinished business.

Oh no, not the moronic "depreciation is a benefit to business owners" nonsense again.
Does the "Award-Winning Attorney" in his article explain what depreciating purchase price does to your capital gains tax when it comes time to sell the team?  Oh he didn't did he?  So he lied by omission to push a stupid myth about depreciating nontangible assets are some special carve-out that benefits sports team owners.
And he even implies that player salaries can be double deducted as operating expense and depreciable asset, with no offset.  This is an outright lie.  The player contract depreciation has an offset in the capital gains tax the owner will pay when he sells the team.  The capital asset gets written down to zero by year 15.  When the owner sells the team, the cost basis is reduced by that same amount.
Note to self: Do not hire Martin J. Greenberg to do any work for me.  Not even to mow my lawn.

The model needs about 250 pitches to become more predictive than any forecasting model or statistic. 
Impressive but a long ways from the 4 or 5 pitches I need to see before I would start screaming at Maddon or Nevin.

Interesting to me is the use of the term "trained" with regards to the model.
Applying machine learning in this way is a way to understand "what" happened - but it's a very short step to using models in real-time to make predictive pitch selections - factoring/weighting what the pitcher is good at (that day), what the hitter is bad at, against all pitchers, similar pitchers, and this pitcher, weighing count, pitch sequence, time of day, game situation, his bat speed today, what the last pitch was/result, what the desired outcome is (strikeout, popup, ground ball), what he had for breakfast - so, not static pitch charts, but real-time. 
If it's not being done yet, it will be soon.  
Sure, the Luddites will roll their eyes, but this will increasingly be an advantage to those that make use of it, "increasingly" as the models get better, and are fed more data.  
 
 

I consider the entire rotation to be a sleeper really.   They all have really good stuff outside of Anderson.  And even though I don't like him, I think he's better than he showed last year.  
Whatever combo of pitch selection and sequencing they employed last year was an absolute dumpster fire and seems the main reason why so many people lost their jobs.  
I don't know this for sure but after playing and being around the game for a long time, I think so much of pitching and in particular starting pitching is between the ears.  Mostly because they've got control of the ball.  Offense and defense are a lot more reactive.  
A spreadsheet or coach may not be wrong to ask a pitcher to throw a certain pitch in a certain situation, and the pitcher might actually agree that it's probably the best pitch for that spot.  The problem, though, is when they're aren't confident they can execute it the way it needs to be executed.  
I am hoping there will be a lot more consideration of what that pitcher is capable of that day.  To me, there is a reason why our starters ended up with the second most walks in all of baseball last year.  I think you're better off using the second or even third best option and executing it really well than a poorly executed first option.  

He avoided jail time and the kids were paid, not sure if the Angels stepped up or if it was part of the legal proceedings/agreements.  When the Angels fired him they completely broke off all communication.  They went out if their way to create space, which IMO was their smartest move.
The Daniel thing was big because he was viewed as one of the best talent evaluators in the game, he was exceedingly well connected and there was a lot of talk that he was a future GM. The list of people he was personally involved in signing was a who's who at the time.  Byung-Hyung Kim, Vicente Padilla, Alex Cintron,  Erubio Durazo, Chad Motolla, Kendrys, Aybar, Ervin Santana, Alexi Amarista, Alberto Callaspo, Alexi Casilla, Jose Arredondo, a bunch of Aussies, I forget the rest but the dude was at the top of his game, had won the scout of the year award in 2003 or 04 and then this happened.  Everyone in Latin America knew he was the Angels lead dog in Latin and that stink ruined everyone else's reputations. The buscones completely shut them out.
Info about the legal stuff was pretty hush hush, the Angels people just never spoke about it, they were all pretty embarrassed. As far as Daniel goes, he was either barred from or just never got the opportunity to work the amateur side of the game again. The DBacks hired him as a MLB scout, but my understanding was it was  ST type arrangement where he scouted for potential trade targets.  Last I heard he was working as a golf pro and eventually ran a golf club/resort.  He ruined his career.
Again, not sure what role the Angels may have played in making it right but their reputations were shot.  The end result was they shuttered their academy in VZ, the DR one fell into disrepair and they pretty much exited the market save for a few new hires that were brought in to forge new relationships with the buscones/families.  
It was brutal.
 
 

i may be alone in this, but who are the buscones? is this some kind of latino mafia family running baseball academies in the caribbean? is it some type of new italian noodle, like a cousin to tagliatelle, and can i find it at olive garden? is it a secret password to enter into one of the cuban speak easy's?

I recall that's what he did, and I remember wondering at the time if the team "made good" on what he stole (or even could we?)
I know it's a little naive, but I just felt like the right thing for the club in the aftermath would be to pay back what he stole, and to do some public works to help repair our image, like open a new academy or something like.
So, I guess my question is, did we do anything like that?  Or did we just tuck tail and run?
 

Sorry, my response will likely come off a bit harsh but pretty much everything you said is incorrect and either the people you spoke to had no idea what actually happened or were gaslighting you hard.
Daniel, along with James Wilder, Jorge Oquendo and Jim Bowden were the primary focus under investigation by the FBI. MLB only became aware of the BS after the DOJ requested the financial/payroll records from the Reds, CWS, and Angels. MLB didn't choose to make Daniel an example, it was all brought to light by a Federal investigation that resulted in jail time.
Wilder was fired by the CWS after being followed and caught attempting to re-enter the country with 40K in cash. Bowden resigned as GM of the Nationals (Oquendo had started his BS while he worked under Bowden in Cinci, where Daniel also been a scout). Wilder was eventually sentenced to two years in federal prison after admitting to mail fraud in the scheme, and the 40K in his luggage. Oquendo got a year as did an underling of his. Bowden and Jose Rijo were eventually cleared of wrongdoing.
The White Sox guys; Wilder, scouts Domingo Toribo,and Victor Mateo, were far and away the most guilty but where they differed from what Daniel did is that they basically cut deals with the players and were getting kick-backs.  Daniel was found to have lied to the players - he offered them less money than had been actually authorized to them, essentially pocketing the difference. That very BIG difference is what hurt the Angels.  Where the common thought process in the DR and Venezuela at the time was that kick-backs, either to scouts or buscones (who cut deals with scouts), was part of the "cost of doing business", what Daniel did (mostly in Venezuela), was flat out steal from the players.
Thats why the Angels suffered aferwards.  They were labeled as crooks and untrustworthy in a part of baseball world where gaining a player's trust is vital and the first step in the process -- they were essentially blackballed.  Players wouldn't even TALK to the Angels guys for a long time and buscones basically steered everyone away from them since they felt THEY had been cheated even more given they tended to take a huge portion of the player's bonuses as part of their "expenses" for housing/training them.
Yes they essentially gave up and stayed out of the market, but it was 100% a response to how they were viewed immediately after the BS went down.

I was a bit cynical coming into this story, but gotta be impressed with a guy who's come so far on his own - I mean, who gets TJ on their own? 
I really hope this works out for him - and for the team - I think we both could use a win  

Any news on Chuck's Trevor Bauer font?