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  1. 4 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

     

    The poster boy for the value of predictive data has hung up his cleats. 

    SD will end up paying all but 720K of the 144 mil they signed him for, in exchange they received 596 games of .265/.325/.411 offense.  Despite his retirement, the Padres will be paying him 13 mil in 24 and 25 after guaranteeing the options years in order to trade him.

    One of the weirdest profiles of his time   Weak OBP, weak power, plus glove at a premium hitting position.

    Somewhere in Downey, Claude sheds a tear.

  2. 18 hours ago, katie said:

    I was right now years old when I realized they still have a location that’s open (Point Loma, San Diego). I thought they all closed. 

    I am the opposite of you, I have lived in Summerlin for the last 6 years and there is one right behind my house,which I went to on Saturday.I had no idea so many were closed in California until today.

  3. 25 minutes ago, Tank said:

    i voted for ryan's '73 season.

    he was overpowering. when he took the hill, you had no idea what you were going to see. when he pitched his first no-hitter, it made all of us think that every single game could be another no-no, and suddenly there were thoughts of demolishing vander meer's two consecutive no-hitter streak. 

    every start from then on was electric. being in the ballpark on nights he pitched was just flat out something different. he got screwed out of a cy young because voters felt he had too many losses. idiots.

    Electric is spot on,we would go watch him warm up in the bullpen and you could hear the seams on the baseball cutting through the air.The pop of the catchers mitt was so loud you could almost hear it in the whole stadium.There were plenty of games when he pitched that there was less than 10,000 people at the game.

  4. I voted for Ryan's 383 K season, back then Nolan was the only reason to go to the games. I went with a friend of mine to every home start for Ryan,so it seems more personel for me. Ryan also picked up a save that year pitching 2 innings and striking out 4,which in the end pushed him past Koufax.The fact he passed a Dodger was the cherry on top and as always F the Dodgers.

  5. 1 hour ago, NJHalo said:

    So far no right guesses. 
     

    Hint: It was more well known for the football team that played there. No longer standing, and the Football team and baseball team now have their own stadiums

    That's where the Bears played, the Denver Bears that is. I saw a Broncos game there in 1975, but by that time they had changed the name to Mile High Stadium and added thousands of seats.

  6. 19 minutes ago, stormngt said:

    I am willing to bet there are a lot more HOF members who have hit their wives.  I am sure just over 50% of the ones who played in the 30s, 40s, 50s, and 70s have hit their wives.

    You asked why he gets no "love" and I think that is why.I get what you're saying but I think we look at DV a little different than 50 years ago. He beat up the father of his girlfriend and punched and kicked the mother of his child.How many of those older players were arrested?

  7. 23 hours ago, Tank said:

    i loved watching the smothers brothers weekly tv show when i was a kid. didn't understand everything, but always loved the 'mom loved you more routine.' they were always hilarious (and steve martin was one of their writers). 

    they were also good musicians, which often got overlooked by their terrific humor. 

    Speaking of musicians they also had great bands on,like Cream,The Doors and The Who and many others.The episode with The Who is crazy,Keith Moon blows up his drumkit,with probably too many explosives.

  8. 2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

    First, defensive metrics are the murkiest of all stats.  BB-Reference's version of WAR focuses on DRS, FGs on UZR they are pretty similar, but DRS throws in subjective analysis using stringers to determine the difficulty by employing Baseball Info's Solutions, "Good Fielding Plays/Defensive Misplays (GFP/DME) system", it does this to try to be more comprehensive but in doing so it can cause some double dipping which they then employ yet another methodology to try to factor that out.  It's there where the differences however slight make for "fuzzy" results and what many see as bWAR overrating a player's actual defensive production. 

    Offensively they grade around OPS+ whereas fWAR uses wRC+ which is built on wOBA and if I have to explain to you why that makes one stat better than the other then there are multiple discussions that need to be had before even starting on the differences in bWAR and fWAR.  wOBA is built around the proven reality that getting on base (not making an out) is the biggest factor to scoring runs while OPS is treating OBP and SLG equally.

    fWAR had Moniak as a 1.5 player.  It seems pretty clear that the version properly adjusting for the importance of not making outs is giving you a better idea of how well Moniak performed.  

    Defensively it's back to the slight difference and added components.  DRS uses rPM (runs minus plus saved) to rate the player against the league average -- UZR uses RngR (range above runs average) to try to do the same thing -- both of these stats get their data from the same source (BIS), and RanR like rPM gives Moniak a positive score so it comes down to how much you really want to buy into subjective human analysis vs math.  

    I don't know of a single person who prefers bWAR to fWAR.

    And yet we see so few do that.

    Total number of OFers in all of MLB to post 2-3 WAR seasons among qualifiers 

    2018 - 41, 
    2019 - 36 
    2021 - 32
    2022 - 30
    2023 - 34

    Here are the actual names per year if you want to try to find the "plenty of guys" taken off the scrapheap who managed a 2-3 WAR season.

    2018 https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&pos=of&team=0&pageitems=30&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2018&season=2018&pagenum=1

    2019 https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&pos=of&team=0&pageitems=30&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2019&season=2019&pagenum=2

    2021 https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&pos=of&team=0&pageitems=30&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2019&season=2019&pagenum=2

    2022 https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&pos=of&team=0&pageitems=30&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2022&season=2022

    2023 https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major-league?stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&month=0&ind=0&pos=of&team=0&pageitems=30&startdate=&enddate=&season1=2023&season=2023&pagenum=2

    More importantly, here are all the Angels OFers to produce a 2.0 fWAR season since 2012 when Trout came up

    Trout (every year). 
    Hunter (2012)
    Trumbo (2012)
    Calhoun (2014, 2015, 2016, 2019)
    Goodwin (2019)
    Upton (2016, 2017)
    Ward (2022)

    12 seasons, 36 starting spots, another 1-2 back up spot, so anywhere from 36-60 spots and it's happened exactly once with Brian Goodwin.

    I don't have any interest in discussing whether or not Yelich at 125 mil from age 33-37 (LOL), would be worth doing.  But let's not downplay just how valuable and yes RARE a legit 2 fWAR player is.  The Trout era Angels will likely be a case study on just how valuable and important a team full of 2 WAR players is .vs the eggs in one (or two) baskets approach the Angels have followed.

    Sorry for the long post full of abbreviations and information very few of you likely have any interest in but out of respect for all parties involved I figured I'd do it this way than just say BULLSHIT! and drop some snark... (like always)

    Thank you and may God bless the Angels during these winter meetings.

    "Hallelujah, Holy Shit! -- Where's the Tylenol!" 

    Inside Pitch delivering some facts, I think as Angel fans we might be a little spoiled by Trout's excellence. 2fWAR doesn't seem very valuable but it turns out to be more rare than I thought.Great stuff, also nice quote from Clark W Griswold.

  9. 1 hour ago, Torridd said:

    Wow! That's fantastic. I wonder what's the average from those situations. HBP? Walks?

    I don't know about HBP but I read where it was 12 guys he walked with the bases loaded. He said he would unintentionally intentionally walk a guy to face a different hitter who he thought he could get out. The story also said that Palmer almost gave up a Grand Slam to Rico Carty but Al Bumbry went over the wall to bring it back. Palmer was a beast.

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