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1 minute ago, ScottT said:

But you can't tell me he wouldn't help every team.  People are gonna boycott?    What about  Ozuna?  Draymond Green?   Ruben Patterson?  Adrian Peterson?  Michael Vick?   Ray Lewis?   Floyd Mayweather?

Kobe?

What about them? They did bad things, some went through legal punishment/restitution for their misdeeds, and teams/organizations ultimately felt it was worth bringing them back. Clearly, teams don't want Bauer back for whatever reason, even if it's just that they think he's a jackass and they don't feel like dealing with him. 

Some NFL teams probably could have benefited from having Kaepernick on their rosters. Were you crusading for him? Some MLB teams could probably benefit from having Brandon Belt (who as far as I know, hasn't been accused of anything). Are you crusading for him? Sometimes teams just don't wanna sign a guy. They don't owe anyone an explanation as to why. 

8 minutes ago, ScottT said:

He's a pitcher that can help 30 MLB teams.  That's not debatable.

...yet they're not signing him, which tells you that there are other factors that outweigh what teams think he can contribute on the field. Call it cancel culture if you want, but you cannot force a team to sign a player. Period. 

1 minute ago, ScottT said:

Yeah, and that information may not me reliable.  See the very recent example from AZ

That is certainly a possibility.  It's just odd to me that some folks seem to think that every team would just randomly decide not to sign him for no particular reason.  Either they have more info than is publicly available, they just don't want the hassle that might come from signing him, or both--and in any of those three cases, it's perfectly fine if teams don't want to sign him. 

1 minute ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

how would a sports organization have more incriminating information than law enforcement were able to find through a high profile legal proceeding? Do you actually think that’s it’s likely enough to be worth consideration?

Yes, actually.  As I've said numerous times, it's entirely possible that they have information about women from several locations/jurisdictions and that no individual incident reaches a threshold for a local prosecutor to want to formally press charges.  But maybe the totality of the information they have is enough to scare off teams from signing him.  Why is that so hard to believe?

2 hours ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

At this point I think we've gotten a good idea of the offense;

1. Sano, has shown he deserves the starting DH role and hitting in the middle of the line-up. ideally 5th or 6th

2. Hicks, not so much. Out of Moniak, Adell and Hicks, Adell deserves to get most of the time with what he brings and ability to do alot more on the bases.  I think Moniak can still get his bats split between the 3 spots and DH. While Hicks is just wasting a roster spot. 

     Ideally they play about 5 games per week; lets Say Adell starts 3, and  Moniak starts the other 2 in RF, and than in the other 2 games Trout and Ward could DH.

3. I'd Move Drury Up to the 3-hole, followed by Ward, Sano and Drury.

At the moment I see this team being 81-81 

Not sure what you're saying on point 3 there.

I still think it's early to commit to too much on Sano.

30 minutes ago, Tank said:

it certainly sounds possible. no doubt there's probably a pretty fine legal line about what information they can release publicly, but it seems like they would have said something by now, or that someone else would have found information (like TMZ who always seems to be ahead of the game on a lot of this stuff). 

There's no incentive for MLB to say anything else about it unless they're compelled to for some reason.  They've said he has served his suspension and any team is free to sign him.  As an institution, there's nothing else for them to say.  If teams aren't signing him, that's their right.  You cannot force an individual team to sign a player.

20 minutes ago, Tank said:

i think bauer has a legit legal claim based on how the league has treated former dodger pitcher, julio urias along with ozuna. urias has been arrested twice for DV, serving a 20 game suspension after his 2019 arrest and being suspended for the rest of the '23 season (there's the potential for a longer suspension if he signs with a team). 

i think the strength of bauer's case is that he was was suspended so severely in comparison to other players in a similar situation, but they ended up serving a smaller suspension after being found guilty, while bauer served a much longer suspension while having the chargers dismissed (someone who's better at wording this legally may want to take a crack at the point i'm trying to make). the fact that bauer is a doosh or is unlikeable shouldn't have been a factor in his punishment, but it sure seems like it was. 

Again, have you considered that whatever MLB uncovered in their investigation is much worse/occurred more frequently than what is publicly known? 

1 hour ago, Chuck said:

Marcel Ozuna was charged with a DUI & arrested in 2021 for aggravated assault strangulation & misdemeanor battery family violence charges. He was allegedly seen by police grabbing a woman’s neck & throwing her against a wall.

He was put on probation and suspended by MLB for 20 games. 

Time served. All is good. 

Yet, Trevor Bauer is still out of work, cleared of all charges. 

What gives?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think MLB has a formal DUI policy, oddly enough.  As for the domestic violence charges against Ozuna, he entered a diversion program and the charges were ultimately dropped after he completed all of the requirements.  It's not a great look for him or the Braves, but he did what was required of him and doesn't have a history of DV beyond the incident for which he was initially charged (just so anyone doesn't misconstrue what I'm saying: one incident is obviously too many).

On Bauer, I'll say again for about the 20th time: I would wager that the totality of the evidence that MLB has of his past encounters with multiple women (even if no single incident rises to the level of legal criminality) makes teams unwilling to take the risk of signing him, especially when he comes with a lot of PR challenges. 

You can argue that it's not fair to Bauer that he's being kept from playing for things he might do versus Ozuna being allowed to play despite things he's actually done--but the reality is, there's a collectively bargained process for DV that Ozuna has gone through, and the Braves have assessed that whatever negative PR is associated with him is ultimately outweighed by his contributions on the field.  Obviously, no team yet feels like that same weighing process favors signing Bauer.

19 minutes ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

Trout goes hitless and angels lose.  I see a trend.

6 for his last 31 with 4 BB.

4 minutes ago, katie said:

My mom plays wordle with Dillon Tate’s mom everyday. 

I bet his mom is bad at Wordle, since she can't even spell Dylan like a normal person.

No surprise.  Still curious to see the extent of the surgery.

On 1/20/2024 at 11:32 AM, Stradling said:

Signing Stephenson is exactly a sign of being the latter. There’s virtually no chance that they are done spending or acquiring players. 

I guess you were technically right since they signed Matt Moore, Jose Cisnero, Aaron Hicks, and Miguel Sano after this, but I'm guessing that's not what you had in mind.

On 1/19/2024 at 7:01 PM, tdawg87 said:

No. We should be wary of signing relievers to long term deals because that's an idea that is generally not good.

Also: no update yet today?  Figured they'd do it either right before or right after the game.

16 minutes ago, Torridd said:

According to GameCast, O'Hoppe's out was a lineout. Was it hit very hard? 

89.4 MPH exit velocity, so not particularly hard.

3 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

The Angels have 1 series win so far. 

Yeah, and it was against a Tier 6 team...................

Adell slipped rounding second.  Lol, dude just can't get things going on the bases lately.

1 minute ago, ScottM said:

bleh, for some reason I thought Adrianza's career stats were better. there is zero depth here.

Yep.  Some potentially interesting options lower down in the system, but really not any solid options for immediate help.

2 minutes ago, ScottM said:

Neto needs a triple-A stint

Who starts at SS, then?  Rengifo?  I think we've seen he's not really cut out for doing that defensively for very long.

Ha ha.  Neto screamed, "Fuck!" after that K.  Could hear him very clearly.

Garcia has definitely looked better his past few outings than he did in the first few.  Maybe he'll be serviceable after all.

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Why is Hicks still getting at bats.

With the usual caveats about sample size (especially for this type of data), he has truly been awful. 

Lol, way to show up in that AB, Hicks...

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Wait didn't Trout only have 2 SB as of yesterday 

No.  He had two coming into this series, then stole one on Tuesday.

Just now, Chuck said:

Vintage TROUT!! 

 

Definitely would not have thought Vaughn would be on a list like that!  1995 was the only season in which he had more than four total SB in the entire year--and he had 5 in the first 19 games.  Odd!