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Youre not getting ace level guys, pitching or hitting, drafting middle of the rounds without getting very lucky.

Ive been a low key Giants fan for a bit now... my daughter lives up there so weve been hitting up games and its really a great place to watch baseball in my opinion.  

My god man you cant help yourself can you... 

My god man you cant help yourself can you... 

Then he should rebuild... but he wont as it will hurt the ticket sales.
But by summer when the team is terrible it will anyway, so hes just being an idiot. 

Im honestly a bit tired of this narrative.
I highly doubt we value it any differently, but the better question is where were we supposed to have gotten it in recent years?  Lets not forget weve now lost two men who should still be in our rotation to off field deaths in the last decade.    Two guys we got right, that arent here for non baseball reason.  2/5th of a rotation.
You draft mid to late rounds you are guessing, and usually better off taking the best athlete overall in hopes of trading them for what you actually need.
The draft is largely a crap shoot with a bunch of kids years away from actually being anything.
You could ask the same question as to why 24 teams passed on Trout as you could Walker Bueller as they were taken within picks of each other numerically.
Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you dont, at the end of the day you have to both hit and pitch.

Crop Dusting the cube farm... one of the few things i miss now that im telecommuting

Honestly, Im glad to hear that your experience was different than my own, perhaps things have mellowed in the last few years.
I tend to be too vocal and opinionated so i find at times its better to just stay away to avoid the dogpile, it isnt like there is any real debate in politics these days anyway.
With that ill once again find the door, enjoy!


 

Well twitter allows both sides, unlike here so...  🙂 

Well twitter allows both sides, unlike here so...  🙂 

Well twitter allows both sides, unlike here so...  🙂 

Thats pretty much what it will take.
Not high on Anderson would prefer Moose for 3B as we all know well likely need one at some point.
But, yeah, Snell, Bellinger, Hoskins, Moose ... thats what its going to take to actually be in the post mix.
Is that realistic, probably not, but thats real. 
I still believe if Arte isnt willing to do that, then we should do a full rebuild.  Playing 500ish ball is making us worse, not better, its time for something drastic one way or the other. 

Thats pretty much what it will take.
Not high on Anderson would prefer Moose for 3B as we all know well likely need one at some point.
But, yeah, Snell, Bellinger, Hoskins, Moose ... thats what its going to take to actually be in the post mix.
Is that realistic, probably not, but thats real. 
I still believe if Arte isnt willing to do that, then we should do a full rebuild.  Playing 500ish ball is making us worse, not better, its time for something drastic one way or the other. 

I hate to break it to some of you but right now WE are a bigger PR problem than he is.

We need pitching, and no one else seems to want to play here.. Stroman for example turning us down to take less money to go to NYY according to this mornings reading.  Some of you act like were some desired destination, like we have our choice... wake up, your kidding yourself.  
The only way were getting anyone to come here right now is a guy like this, or overpaying.

i suspect you dont have much evidence of many of your takes... oh and the about twice that now just to update your bullshit .

I hate to break it to some of you but right now WE are a bigger PR problem than he is.

We need pitching, and no one else seems to want to play here.. Stroman for example turning us down to take less money to go to NYY according to this mornings reading.  Some of you act like were some desired destination, like we have our choice... wake up, your kidding yourself.  
The only way were getting anyone to come here right now is a guy like this, or overpaying.

I hate to break it to some of you but right now WE are a bigger PR problem than he is.

We need pitching, and no one else seems to want to play here.. Stroman for example turning us down to take less money to go to NYY according to this mornings reading.  Some of you act like were some desired destination, like we have our choice... wake up, your kidding yourself.  
The only way were getting anyone to come here right now is a guy like this, or overpaying.

Source?
Have any actual teammates come out and said this?  Any executives?   If you have any links or references id like to see it for my own knowledge.  I do know that many have supported him including Mookie Betts as i recall.  I think i put more credence in the word of guys that played with him than anything else personally 

Sure, he didnt fail us, we failed him. 
Had Arte made an actual effort to win none of this ever happens

This
Itys a virtual guarantee that people/players you like are equally as potentially depraved, the only difference is you dont know about it. 
The man was proven innocent, he deserves a chance, the rest is nonsense. 

Shoulda woulda coulda... none of that happens without the teams putting them out there which is what we should have done. 
See it how you will, its moot now. 

Optimal point, OUT of a playoff spot, and looking up and teams that all had a better chance to improve than we did. 
The odds were long even then by any book or projection.
We all get optimistic but the reality of it was very different than the flowery picture you paint and you know that, or should. 

Optimal point, OUT of a playoff spot, and looking up and teams that all had a better chance to improve than we did. 
The odds were long even then by any book or projection.
We all get optimistic but the reality of it was very different than the flowery picture you paint and you know that, or should. 

This
Itys a virtual guarantee that people/players you like are equally as potentially depraved, the only difference is you dont know about it. 
The man was proven innocent, he deserves a chance, the rest is nonsense. 

This
Itys a virtual guarantee that people/players you like are equally as potentially depraved, the only difference is you dont know about it. 
The man was proven innocent, he deserves a chance, the rest is nonsense.