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21 hours ago, AvsBroncosAngels337 said:

I agree. I thought I saw somewhere today where Sandoval compared it to Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if the players feel a little relieved and more relaxed with not being under the Ohtani microscope anymore. I for one am ready to get this going and see how they do. 

Yeah the chiefs could barely function with all the attention.  

I hope we become like cardinals fans when pujols signed with the angels.  Really angry but then thanking their lucky stars that they did not win the bidding wars. 

Stupid contract.  Will quickly become a have issue as he becomes an aging DH. Glad it’s the dodgers cause it’s a huge mistake. 

The point is the amount of time it took for him to come back, not that he needs to come back now.  It seems that all his injuries are predicted to be out for a certain time but it always seems longer.  Just another example of that.  Is he a “slow” healer? Is he unwilling to play with any discomfort at all?  Is the medical Staff of the Angels messing these guys up with incorrect rehab timelines or trying to do too much too soon?

Is this trout or the medical teams the Angels are using.  On trouts end we have heard that he can’t damage this if he is willing to play through some discomfort.  It seems he is not. 
 

or, is it the Angels using bad medical teams giving either wrong diagnoses or not rehabbing properly 

with this injury there seemed to be a fairly standard recovery period he did not meet. 

3 hours ago, Stradling said:

And you have zero clue what he’s going to do. Fletcher, who literally wrote the book on Shohei says it’s about 30%, I’ll go out on a limb and say he’s much closer to the truth than the troll who created a profile to constantly post about Ohtani not coming back. 

What’s the point of putting any percentages on something no one knows anything about.  Anyone who puts less than 100% can later say they were right.  If fletcher is closer to the truth with 30% will you say he was more wrong if he doesn’t sign here. 
 

we will all wait and see. 

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

I am Ok with Ohtani leaving and taking the 6 man rotation problem with him. To over invest in a pitcher than thins out the quality of the rotation every season would never create a successful campaign for the Angels.

Every start Ohtani doesn't take is shared through the entire rotation to a 6th pitcher that is always the worst pitcher to give 27 starts to. Or worse, bullpen games, putting more stress pitchers that have to clean up the 5th or 6th inning on for the other lesser quality starters. That means more reliance on the Salt Lake shuffle, moving arms in and out of the bullpen to replace over worked arms. 

The team that goes overboard with a years and dollars contract better only need Ohtani and no other players on the roster. They have to already have a playoff contending team that can handle the burden of the 6 man rotation. Otherwise they will end up always coming up short by the games the 6th worst pitcher has lost. 

This.  As long as he pitches and insists on every sixth day, that team is actually worse off for having him on the pitching side.  

This game highlights what I hate about the extra inning rule.  You should have to do at least one positive thing to win a game.  Even if you start that runner at first, you can’t score him with two clean outs.  Even a walk and a stolen base to get there is something.  Shouldn’t be able to win with two groundouts. 

Sometimes good managers of any business (GM in this case) has to be willing to make difficult choices for the health of the business.  Go back 5-6 years and there was significant talk about trading mike trout for a massive haul.  Now no one has any idea whether that would have changed the past few years but it could hardly have been worse. 
 

the same franchise faced with the same decision and unable to make the difficult choice.  hopefully the next 6 years are different than the past 6 years after the trout decision.   I know that there is plenty of support for signinghim and maybe it was the right thing, but don’t you sometimes have to ask”what if?”

 Now, I hope mike trout HAS to say that he has no idea what ohtani is gonna do, I really hope that.  The alternative is that these guys don’t talk at all.  After 5 years together no talks about the biggest decision in ohtani’s future, especially when it mirrors trouts decision 5 years ago. 

“Roland” Acuña will be happy to hear he is the best.  It’s all health.  If he healthy he is still top 10.  

41 minutes ago, bruin5 said:

Yeah, not sure this is going to happen. Major leaguers are like a group of Yentas. They talk among themselves but try to keep it within the circle. Besides, what is the upside of telling? 

And yet you seem to have all this inside information. 
 

see how easy this is….

I spoke to a friend who is a major leaguer and he said that all his teammates love Rendons snarky attitude toward the press.  He does what they wish they could do. 

He comes across as humble, but is he?  Look right now.  Why not start the treatment now?  What is there to gain by playing out this season even if no more damage to the arm if not selfish reasons for stat building.  Getting the elbow fixed now starts the rehab process now.  If he heals quickly he could be back in a year for a teams playoff run.  
 

another unicorn question though.  Yes a repaired UCL can bat earlier than throw but if trying to get back to pitching would batting slow down the healing process?

1 hour ago, Swordsman78 said:

Plus not getting ravaged by injuries probably was a factor 

Yeah the angels pitching staff was ravaged by injuries all year. Perhaps building an older core makes injuries more of a threat.   Lots of young teams doing well, lots of high dollar older teams doing poorly. 

“Given his importance based on the size of his contract he should not play again until he is totally at 100%”

- Cal Ripken Jr

9 hours ago, SoCalDucksFan said:

I say again to anybody who doesn't want to read my posts, PLEASE put me on Ignore.  Do it right now.  Then you won't have to read a word I say.

I Never said that I was boycotting the Angels.  I said I was boycotting their Owner.  I can watch them on TV without putting money in the owner's pocket via ticket sales.

I do happen to be a fan of Mike Trout, and having lived in O.C. since 1978, I have attended my share of games and supported the team for several decades now.

Pointing out what ownership has done to this Franchise is a whole lot different than actively rooting for them to lose, which you are basically insinuating with your comment.  As a Fan, I have the right to voice complaints, and point out the mistakes made my ownership and management.  My comments are tame compared to what a fan in New York would be saying right  now.  So sorry that I hurt your snowflake feelings with my criticism of this spectacular owner, who has brought so much success to the Angels franchise these past 2 decades.

The television revenue dwarfs the tickets sale revenue.  That is The real reason they are making so much money.  The worst thing you can do to boycott is watch the game on television, you are driving the ad revenue.  Read a book to boycott. 

The impressive part is that he gave up that much in only 33 pitches.   He’s good to go a while longer. 

When the good young talent you bring up doesn’t translate to wins it means other teams good young talent is better.  Hence the poor ranking of the farm system. 

1 minute ago, fan_since79 said:

David Freese beat them in 2011, and the Giants in 2012.

That rangers cardinals game 6 might be the best game ever. 

5 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

He recorded that earlier this year.  They just hit replay every time it's needed.

I’d be funny if the inning was in a different voice like they just plug it in. 
 

“Angels have a quick and quiet top of the (computer voice) FIFTH”

10 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Cron .523 OPS

Grichuk .558 OPS

Escobar .612 OPS

At least with those 3 acquisitions, Perry looks like Eppler.

None of those three better be here in 2024!

While I think all these moves were bad some blame goes straight to the players.  OPS at the time of acquisition:

Cron .780

grichuk .861

escobar .695

all fell off, in Grichuks case dramatically.  not sure what the effect of playing in Colorado had for grichuk and cron.  I doubt they are difference makers cause the pitching has also floundered but if they had just maintained their prior level of output. .  

15 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

Arte bought this team for something like $160 million, cash. It's worth billions now. He won't be making any noise in the clubhouse. All systems are go for him on the financial side. As an investment, the team is an A+. But he doesn't seem to have much interest in a winning team. Fourth place is okay it seems. The fans still show up. The TV contract makes tons of money.

I love it how any criticism of him or the overpaid do-nothing players is because of "jealousy". 

This is a mixed up, dysfunctional organization that might not sniff the playoffs for years to come if things don't change in a serious way. And that starts at the top.

Not true.  When MLB adds 5 more wild cards in each league they might sniff the playoffs. 

Easy to sit here and say that.  If you were sitting on a 400-500 million dollar payoff with the only caveat that you can’t get injured in the last 45 games for a team that is all but eliminated, would you tone it down?

52 minutes ago, SoCalDucksFan said:

A mediocre team with 2 of the greatest players so far this century.  Just think what would have been possible had there been a halfway decent supporting cast.

Assuming ohtani wins MVP this year, since 2014 the Angels will have had 5 MVPs, 1 playoff appearance and zero playoff wins.

7 minutes ago, Blarg said:

This is the Astros. Up by five they send the runner all the way from second base, like they really need those extra runs. And do it once again. 

I’m sure if the Angels promise to stop trying to score runs they would be happy to stop also. 

6 hours ago, Ender said:

We just have cheapskate owners who don't wanna spend money in Free Agency. 

Spending lots of money in free agency is not necessarily great.  See the Angels for an example.