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B. Purely in a vacuum, they sold the assets that they needed to. That said, it doesn;t look like there's any intention of properly orchestrating a rebuild and there's no long term vision beyond this vague annual "retool"

That's not what he said.

Hell, wear it 7 times even. Lose games anyway. Be Angels. Suck forever. 

Wouldn't be surprised if they see him as a key piece to the bullpen next year as well, which means he'll immediately fall off a cliff like Loup and Tepera and put up a 5 ERA

First, to your last point. I totally agree. Nobody wants to admit it, but Ohtani comes with some pretty big risks. Also what nobody wants to admit (because it's sacrelig here) is that Trouts deal is starting to look scary. The past 2 years haven't been good, and he still has 8 to go... and he's only going to get older.
Rendon is already a bad contract. No way to ignore it. He's played less than a full season with us so far in 3 seasons combined, and in that time his OPS+ is 115. He's not going to get better with age. And he still has 4 more years... where he actually costs more than Trout. And the two combined will cost roughly 80 a year...
If we assume Ohtani will cost 35-40 a year.... we're looking at close to 110-120 a year... on 2 aging players (Trout I'll assume still has some great left in him, but the hour glass is still running), and a 3rd player who comes with risk.
Even if Moreno ups the payroll to 250, that still leaves 130 mill or so to fill out 22 other players. 
Which we could do if we had some bona-fide talent coming up... but do we?
As much as I would love Ohtani to be locked up, at this point, I don't any other way to actually win without trading him. And that sucks.
But for the "babe ruth" talk. The Sox were always "cursed" for trading him. But it looks like (from google) the Red Sox sucked in the 20s anyway... would they have been good WITH Ruth? And would Ruth have ever become as good as he became if he stayed on that bad team?... I have no idea. I wasn't born for a few more decades. 
We always talk about never getting value back for trading stars, and how trades like MCab didn't work out at all. But we can say the same with draft picks

We do... but do you honestly think Ohtani isn't going to bare minimum see what else is out there?
He's been here for 5 years now, and very little of it was good times. 
I have no idea what he thinks, and for all I know, he wants to stay here and get paid.
But there's zero reason to think he's not going to get offered huge money from several other teams. Teams in a far better position than we are.
The best scenario is trading him to retool, and making him the same giant offer when he hits FA somewhere else and hope for the best.
We banked on Grienke and struck out. Same as Cole, and a handful of other guys we swore we were in on.
Learn from the past, and don't assume you're going to get anyone to come here. 
I think they have a far better chance luring him to sign here for big money if there's a better team.... which only happens if you trade him now for good players.

Matt Wise mound visits are like a guaranteed 3+ runs for the other team

Matt Wise mound visits are like a guaranteed 3+ runs for the other team

It certainly seems like he's more concerned about butts in the seats than long term winning, if true. 

I know this is a thread specifically about Adell and the conversation about where he is in his development is certainly valid.
I thought he would be able to hit much better than he is.
But I can’t help notice that, in the big scheme of things, nobody can hit.
The Angels managed to get SEVEN guys into the game last night that are hitting .200 or under.

No. He'll probably be ready in mid/late September and then just get shut down

So many awful at-bats. They're really about to give Ohtani zero runs of support for the 3rd straight start

I don't, but I have been multiple times and it's one of my favorite places in this world.  Absolutely gorgeous architecture and infrastructure.  I am going back to visit again later this year.

Ah yes, time to "retool" just as we've done highly successfully for the last decade

B. Purely in a vacuum, they sold the assets that they needed to. That said, it doesn;t look like there's any intention of properly orchestrating a rebuild and there's no long term vision beyond this vague annual "retool"

Ah yes, time to "retool" just as we've done highly successfully for the last decade

Ah yes, time to "retool" just as we've done highly successfully for the last decade

Ah yes, time to "retool" just as we've done highly successfully for the last decade

That 7/8/9, based on their mlb numbers, has to be one of the worst in history….

But seriously though, it's not like things will change so hoping for the best is our only option

@Taylor is the worst bumper on AW.  

https://fanbuzz.com/mlb/brad-hawpe-now/

i'm not sure why they DFA'd mackinnon. not that he was any kind of long term solution or anything, but i'm sure he had some usefulness here or there.

Are you a relative of Nevin? Based on a tiny sample size of pretty much complete failure, I can't see why you are so vehemently defending him.