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Ah the return of WYHI threads

This is why I always vote no on any proposition that costs additional funds. I’m not sure how anyone can trust the current state government with any project or our tax dollars. 

This thread is either 10 years late or posted at the absolutely most perfect time.

Angelswin peak era.

Ah the return of WYHI threads

Ah the return of WYHI threads

Ah the return of WYHI threads

The Arrow system is wild
perhaps this is a scene of a missile getting blown up out of the atmosphere
https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1779307659872645623
 
I guess strategically, you have to think that those Shaheed drones cost very little and each iron dome shot is $$$$
They need to get the Iron Laser working

There's something different about this team

During ST players are in the "BSOHL" phase
Anytime Angels are playing over .500 for a brief time in the season TSDATT posters come out

I didn’t think we’d have 4 wins until June. 

During ST players are in the "BSOHL" phase
Anytime Angels are playing over .500 for a brief time in the season TSDATT posters come out

The twitter feed is full of this trans visibility day stepping on top of easter story, which is actually not a story
it turns out this holiday has been always on the 31st for some years now, and coincidentally, this year only, Easter shares that same day
 
All the right wing twitter guys are hiding that little last fact, trading views ($$) for adding visibility to a group+holiday they presumably dont like
 
lame sell outs

The twitter feed is full of this trans visibility day stepping on top of easter story, which is actually not a story
it turns out this holiday has been always on the 31st for some years now, and coincidentally, this year only, Easter shares that same day
 
All the right wing twitter guys are hiding that little last fact, trading views ($$) for adding visibility to a group+holiday they presumably dont like
 
lame sell outs

I want Adell in lineup and Rendon to sit.

Trout crushes and the Angels lose a lot of games so just maybe the two sides can agree to a deadline trade this year

I'm checking out that article right now, and the first thing that stands out is that Gerrit Cole is the only pitcher that was voted a unanimous ace - that is, by all 20 participants. So if there is only one "true ace" in MLB right now, going by their definition, then that means 29 other teams haven't drafted and developed a guy who is currently a true ace. Of course there are a bunch of guys that would have been unanimous at some point over the last ten years--Kershaw, Scherzer, Verlander, DeGrom, Sale, and others come to mind--but in 2024, Gerrit is the only guy to make the grade. Which is weird.
Back up for a moment. If you're over 35ish, you remember a time when top pitchers regularly pitched 250 innings. Justin Verlander is the only active pitcher to pitch 250 IP, which he did last back in 2011 with 251 IP. Roy Halladay did it a year before. Meaning, from 2010-23 there have been two pitcher seasons with 250 IP. In the decade before, 2000-09, there were 7; in 1990-99, 33; in 1980-89, 109; in the 70s, 255.
Or to put that another way, over the last three seasons, there have been, on average, 5.67 seasons of 200+ IP; from 2010-19, it was 27.1 - that's more than four times as many. Going back further, and it is even more extreme, especially accounting for fewer teams.
It is nothing new to point out that innings have declined over baseball history - and it isn't just the last few decades. There are some crazy numbers in the 19th century, with Will White holding the record with 680 IP (!) pitched in 1879. The most IP in the 20th century was Ed Walsh with 464 IP in 1908, which was also the last 400+ IP season. The last 350 IP season was Wilbur Wood with 359.1 in 1973, and the last 300 IP was Steve Carlton with 304 IP in 1980.
It should also be noted that velocity has risen throughout history. We don't have good numbers before the last 10-20ish years, at least consistently and accurately across the board, but I think I read that average fastball velocity has increased by something like 3-5 MPH over the last couple decades. I'm guessing that there were outliers through history, but it is quite possible that no one threw a 90 MPH fastball until the 20th century. In mid-century, I'm guessing that Bob Feller and a few others could hit 95, but the average was probably somewhere in the low 80s.
Anyhow, this is all a long way around to saying that we're still influenced by the past; as recently as the 2000s, just about every team had at least one guy who threw 200 IP in a season. Now it is one out of five teams. The nature of starting pitching has changed. 200 IP today is close to what 250 IP was in the 90s, and 300 IP was in the 70s. That means that about 160 IP today - qualifying, basically - is the equivalent of the historical notion of 200 IP, at least in the preceding few decades. In other words, the expected IP of a regular starter is in the 160-180 IP; 180-200 is very good, and 200+ is exceptional.
So if we want to adjust to today's context, we have to also adjust downward not only with innings pitched, but also WAR, because WAR is largely dependent upon IP. Historically, though, this has been somewhat counter-balanced by higher WAR/IP, with more Ks and fewer walks, at least among elite pitchers. In a way, the best starting pitchers today are sort of like closers who pitch 180+ innings.
Now Cole has been a full time player since 2015 (he pitched 255 IP in 2013-14 total), which is eight full seasons (not counting 2020). Of those eight seasons, he's pitched 200+ IP six times. Here are the number of 200+ IP seasons from 2015-23:
2015-23 (103 player seasons of 200+ IP)
6 Cole
4 Greinke, Scherzer, Verlander
3 Archer, Bumgarner, deGrom, Mikolas, Nola, Sale, Samaradzija
2 Alcantara, Bieber, Corbin, Cueto, Hamels, Keuchel, Kluber, Lester, Porcello, Price, Quintana, Shields, Stroman
1 Bunch of guys
Meaning, over the last eight full seasons, only 24 players have had multiple seasons with 200 IP, and only 11 with three or more seasons, and only 4 pitchers threw 200+ IP in half of those seasons or more. Over his career spanning back before 2015, Kershaw only did it 5 times, all in 2015 or before; Scherzer 6 times; and Verlander 12 times. Weaver, if you're wondering, did it 4 times. Before him, Lackey did it 6 times (4 for the Angels). Going back, Chuck Finley did it 9 times.
Compare that to the "golden era" of aces: Maddux 18, Clemens 15, Johnson 14, Pedro 7. Maddux pitched 14 years in a row of 200+ IP, and 18 out of 19. Even the more fragile Pedro Martinez pitched more 200 IP seasons than any active player other than Verlander.
Is this all due to velocity? No fucking clue, though I think it is the leading factor among, perhaps, several others. But some of those guys threw as hard as today's staff aces, but still managed to regularly throw 200 IP, sometimes 250. I would speculate--and it is speculation only--that other factors include over-training, poor nutrition (not in terms of what players eat, but the nutritional and mineral quality of food), and perhaps something akin to "baby-ing"...meaning, a perhaps erroneous view that coddling pitchers will reduce injuries, when it may actually be more the opposite.
Baseball is ever-changing. While the trend from more to less innings is pretty consistent going back 145 years, it may be that we're at a nadir and will bounce back a bit, to at least 2000s levels. But who knows. It may also be that starting pitchers eventually become 3-4 IP "super-openers" and the line between starters and relievers gets blurred.
Anyhow, lots of words, but it is an interesting subject.

There is also the actual, by definition successful genocide going on in West China that hasnt made a 114 page AW thread
Whats crazy is that in Iran you can take your son to sit on your shoulders as you both watch a gay person get stoned to death, and they are on the human rights committee

There is also the actual, by definition successful genocide going on in West China that hasnt made a 114 page AW thread
Whats crazy is that in Iran you can take your son to sit on your shoulders as you both watch a gay person get stoned to death, and they are on the human rights committee

There is also the actual, by definition successful genocide going on in West China that hasnt made a 114 page AW thread
Whats crazy is that in Iran you can take your son to sit on your shoulders as you both watch a gay person get stoned to death, and they are on the human rights committee

what’s this reasonable take shit doing in the spin forum?

Both sides!

there was a homeless camp under part of a freeway near the eagle rock plaza. they cleared it out from time to time but people always came back. it hasn't had anyone living there for months now. 

Larry H Parker. 
 
if you stayed home from school sick in the 70s or 80s, you saw his commercials 100x a day.