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I think it was Scott who said it's going to take several more years before our system will get any recognition it in (maybe we will be ranked 25th or so for the next 2+ years), and I fully agree. There is a lot of herd mentality that occurs in the rankings and definite group-think that happens. I have met many of the guys who do it, and cover the minors, and that is definitely the case. Everyone says how bad our system is, so when they go to ser them, they look for the bad, find it, and recognize firm what they believe to be true. They don't give out system a second look, so between the bias coming into their one visit per year, their bias based on where players were ranked (I have written several times about the shiney new toy phenomenon), and the fact that they never return to see if there have been any changes, it explains a lot about our rankings. If it were me, I'd say we are an upper 20s system now (maybe 23rd or 24th), and could reach the high teens if and when these guys mature (and if we conyinue to add to them year in and year out). And, I would be very happy with that as a fan. We've been killed for so long without any international talent that we would be very hard to rank anywhere higher. And, I hope we dont ever get to the point where the Major League team sucks so badly that we have so many high end picks to get to be a top 5 organization. But, with good domestic and international drafting, we should be able to maintain a system in the high teens and still have championship clubs in the Majors.
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AngelsWin.com Today: The Angels Top Prospect is….
Dave Saltzer replied to AngelsWin.com's topic in LA Angels | MLB Daily
I'm very excited about Adell. Getting him was really exciting this season. However, I wouldn't go back that far for someone that I was tbat excited about. I was very thrilled when Weaver fell to us and we took him. I saw him pitch a few times in college and knew that his stuff would be 'ace' stuff in the Majors. For a while, it was. And it is so sad to see him still playing when his stuff is so far gone. -
I want to point out that there appears to be a different philosophy going on in player development. Under Abe Flores, years ago, players pretty much went 1 level per year. Under Dipoto, some players were jumped over levels, and some earned promotions. Players were challenged to the level where they could play, although some struggled. Now, under Eppler, there seems to be more of a systemic movement, with levels of players moving up to fill similar positions. It's more of a ripple effect. A little less aggressive than some of Dipoto's moves, but a more organized approach. It's a subtle change.
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That is the biggest question and something I really hope to see in Salt Lake. 2B has been a black hole for us for years. And, there aren't any really good Fa solutions. It's to the point where I hope we both buy and sell right now to solve 2B long term. Even if it means giving up a current piece, we might need to do that to solve 2B. But, if Fletcher her man man the spot for a while, that would be a very good solution.
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Feeling left out. Not sure if it's because if that's because I'm not such a Homer for the system and it's a good thing or not.
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Wasn't Rojas from Vanguard as well? Maybe scouting Rojas, they saw something in him, or vice versa. Congrats to Rojas on the promotion. Not a typical "power" 3B,but the guy just keeps on hitting for average. It Scioscia would be open to an unorthodox situation at 3B (which, generally speaking, is not something Scioscia likes), it could give the team more options on where to invest money.
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Let's be honest here Chuck: the full equation is: AngelsWin>Fangraphs>Everyone else.
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I agree with that. I know where his stuff rates, but I think he can beat his stuff on his actual pitching. Lots of guys with "stuff" under perform because they don't learn the difference between pitching and throwing. In my interview with Finley, we talked about that. He made a good point about it.
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Well it's a good thing I just got an interview with him on Saturday! I'll be posting it in a little bit or in the morning. Congrats to him.
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There's a lot to like about Jones.
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So maybe the Angels can have 2 top 100 prospects?
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I interviewed him in Orem last year. He jumped up to the Cal League and hasn't missed a beat on offense. Great human interest story and an all around great guy. I have heard nothing but praise for him from the coaches and people at both levels. I would love to see him make it.
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He's scheduled to play at IE again Saturday night. Game time 6:05.
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Yes. I've said it, the players have said it, and the coaches have said it.
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Let's meet up.
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I'm going to the Thursday game. I doubt I can get an interview with Trout, but I will bring my camera to try and interview Thaiss.
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Returning to the international market
Dave Saltzer replied to John Smith's topic in LA Angels | MLB Daily
Thank you for making the point more effectively and succinctly than I did. -
See my response in the international draft thread.
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Returning to the international market
Dave Saltzer replied to John Smith's topic in LA Angels | MLB Daily
It's also a true art, as so many of these guys are so young (16--which means you are really deciding whether to sign many of them and for how much when they are 15). Just think, that's like trying to rank kids who are in 9th and 10th grade. There's a lot of room for growth and development. Since guys physically grow until about 23, and add mass typically until about 26, and for many of these players, you might not have as much access to their background, it's much more of an art. These initial rankings are very preliminary for these international players, and should be taken with a lot salt.