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  1. 7 points
    I vaguely remember posting something on this near or at the end of last season, but here goes. One of the marks of Trout's greatness is the 9 WAR season (I will be using Fangraphs version). For context, Fangraphs considers anything over about 6 WAR to be MVP caliber. An 8 WAR season is truly great - only one or two players reach that mark in a given year. 9 WAR is another level: in some years there are no 9 WAR players. In 118 years of two-league MLB, there have been 136 position players seasons of 9 WAR. In other words, 9 WAR is a good measure of "best player in baseball." Let's look at 9 WAR, by the numbers, for position players only: Total number of 9 WAR seasons (1871-2018): 139 (136 from 1901, the first year of two leagues, to present) Total number of players with at least one 9 WAR season: 57 So 57 players produced 139 9-WAR seasons. Now let's talk about Mike Trout. Let's break those 139 seasons down by player: 10: Ruth 8: Hornsby, Bonds 7: Mays 6: Wagner, Williams, Rodriguez 5: Cobb, Gehrig, Trout 4: Collins, Mantle 3: Musial, Morgan, Schmidt 2: J Jackson, Speaker, Lajoie, Foxx, DiMaggio, J Robinson, Yastrzemski, Ripken, Henderson, Griffey 1: Bunch o' Guys There's Trout, with as many or more 9 WAR seasons as all but seven players in major league history: Only Honus Wagner, Ted Williams, Alex Rodriguez, Willie Mays, Rogers Hornsby, Barry Bonds, and Babe Ruth have more. But here's where Trout separates himself from even that pack. Consider.... Of the nine players with five or more 9 WAR seasons, here is the age they had their fifth 9 WAR season: Age 36: Bonds Age 34: Wagner Age 32: Mays Age 29: Ruth, Rodriguez Age 28: Hornsby Age 27: Williams Age 26: Trout In other words, Trout reached the five 9-WAR season level faster than anyone in major league history. This, of course, goes along with his already well known feat of having the most WAR of any player through age 26. As to how many such seasons Trout will end up with, its all speculation. I would suggest a conservative projection would be 2 more, with 3 being a good over/under number. In other words, there's about a 50-50 chance that he'll be at least tied with Hornsby and Bonds for second most, behind only Ruth. But there's also a chance he'll equal or surpass Ruth. He's halfway there, and entering his age 27 season. If he stays healthy, he could enter his 30s tied for second most and only two behind Ruth - at 30 years old!
  2. 6 points
    Are we sure it wasn't just a family meeting?
  3. 6 points
    Stradling

    The Angels rotation

    The more I think about it the more firmly I am in the Keuchel camp. I completely understand that it gives another draft pick to the team we are chasing, but it gives us a relatively sure thing this year and probably next. It gives us a guy that can go deep into games and keep you in games virtually every fifth day. There is a ton of value in that, especially when we really aren’t sure what our bullpen will give us.
  4. 5 points
    Rico

    Spin Forum Dumping Bin

    This is the wrong place for that.
  5. 4 points
    floplag

    The Angels rotation

    Considering it was built on the hope that 2 guys would return to form and 2 more would finally find one... yeah.
  6. 4 points
    UndertheHalo

    The Angels rotation

    I don’t really put any value at all on spring training results. I want to read that guys are throwing at velocity they should be throwing and that they’re healthy. With pitchers especially I think they don’t even give a shit about score board results in the spring. They’re just working things out and seeing what is going to be viable for them when it counts. That said, you look at the rotation on paper and who knows really. Per the same old shit for the last 4 or 5 years, the Angels have some talented guys that haven’t quite put it together that they’re counting on. What’s new is that they have a couple of good upside vets on one year deals and several legitimate prospects and younger pitchers pushing. So. You can squint and see a decent rotation if your optimistic and feel like it. Probably equally as valid you can suspect that between the injuries and the unproven guys it’ll be an average to bad group. There’s just too many completely reasonable outcomes possible to get a good read on what they have.
  7. 3 points
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  9. 3 points
    That empty seat on the right is for his son.
  10. 3 points
    Jay

    The Angels rotation

    I've been worried for years.
  11. 3 points
    UndertheHalo

    The Angels rotation

    I disagree that Harvey is done. He’s throwing like 95 and his breaking stuff is plus. I think there is plenty left in the tank and I’m hoping that the Angels catch a resurrection season out of him. He’s only 29 and I think if that thoratic nerve problem was going to end his career last year wouldn’t have happened. I don’t think that he needs to be the “Dark Knight” again but I think that he definitley has the ability to be solidly above average starter if he can find some consistency. We’ll see.
  12. 3 points
    wopphil

    The Angels rotation

    Yes, I am. Not because of the talent level of our top 5, but because of health concerns (there is no way more than two of them throw in excess of 150 innings). Gio Gonzalez makes way too much sense for this team.
  13. 3 points
    Williams is so underrated at times. He gave up three years of his youth, age 24-26 in WWII, then gave up most of his age 33&34 seasons for the Korean War. In his 19 seasons in baseball he had an OPS below 1.036 once. Let that sink in. He was not superhuman one injury plagued season at age 40 then returned at 41 and hit 316./451/.645/1.096 for 113 games. Before y'all start yelling about park factor, Williams hit over 200 OPS+ 9 times in his career. Trout maxed out last year at 199. Scrape away Trout's age 24-26 years and where is he in the record books? Add those years back in to Williams career by averaging his three seasons before and after and where would he be in career WAR? Love what Trout is doing, being consistently the best player year in and out. The guy you have to beat if you want the MVP award. But I still think Williams was and is better.
  14. 3 points
    Stradling

    And in Fast Food News Part 2

    30 years ago today I was rehired at INO. Super crazy to think of how much things have changed over the years and what this company has done for me. It has given me a ton of friends, a comfortable lifestyle, and given me confidence, that I may have never had without it. I am truly blessed to be a part of such an amazing place that spoils us on a daily basis. I certainly could have done worse.
  15. 2 points
    Dochalo

    The Angels rotation

    I'm worried. Anyone else?
  16. 2 points
    Lou

    The Angels rotation

    its not hate (at least for me), it's the money and draft pick (which would go to Houston, mind you) that I don't like. that being said, I wouldn't bitch about signing him.
  17. 2 points
    Lou

    USC (and more)

    southern cal has been such a f'n dumpster fire over the last few years that they have become the poster child for low-hanging fruit. it's like making fun of Wonk for making stupid comments on AW
  18. 2 points
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    fishbulb

    USC (and more)

  20. 2 points
    Tank

    2020 Democratic Field

    too bad delegates won't eat well. #poordems #poornate
  21. 2 points
    Spirit

    2020 Democratic Field

    Oh yes.
  22. 2 points
    The Belgian waffles because I thought Belgian was a socialist country.
  23. 2 points
    bloodbrother

    The Angels rotation

    Ehh, they are woefully mediocre IMO. Skaggs/Heaney I think can be good mid-rotation guys, but their injury histories certainly doesn't inspire much confidence in them giving you a full season of production. Both already nursing elbow inflammation and forearm tightness this spring is par for the course. Cahill and Barria I feel comfortable with as back-end types. Nothing flashy but workable. I don't have any hope for Harvey and think he's washed as a player, though I get what the Angels were going for with him on a 1yr deal hoping there's something left in the tank
  24. 2 points
    Kevin

    AOC Thread

    Obviously Adam’s heart isn’t made of steel because its been melted by AOC. Cue @Vladdylonglegs
  25. 2 points
    Tank

    AOC Thread

    it's a crying shame politics and all of its dirtiness is so one-sided.
  26. 2 points
    Catwhoshatinthehat

    AOC Thread

    DEFLECT DEFLECT DEFLECT. Two sides of the same ****** up coin.
  27. 2 points
    In before Stradling tells you you're wrong.
  28. 2 points
    This needs more love.
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  31. 2 points
    I would consider the type of players that LBJ chose to have around him this year as a problem (Rondo, Stevenson, McGee, Chandler). These are players that are not pure shooters and that is the route that LBJ chose to go with this year. His defense is also a huge problem. He's getting blasted out there nightly. It's one thing if he makes an effort and gets embarrassed by a great offensive player (as would happen to kobe sometimes in his final two seasons), but LBJ just stares at guys and lets them shoot or gives them the lane to the basket. That can't be tolerated on any team. He's also been pretty abysmal off the ball where he mostly just goes to one spot and stands or shuffles around that spot until he gets the ball. Lebron is putting up numbers and if someone doesn't watch or pay attention they might think "LBJ is just the same as always", but those aren't meaningful numbers because they don't really impact the game. They're mostly stat padding and if he didn't get those numbers a large amount of that output would just be more evenly distributed among his teammates, meaning that you could take him out of the lineup and it wouldn't actually make too much of a difference right now. The numbers/production are kind of incidental almost, as in they are going to occur for the team and he's just the one getting those numbers. Further evidence for this idea comes from the fact that we're no different since LBJ came back than we were without him. So I would say he's definitely a problem and a big reason things have gone the way they have this year. But no, he's not the only problem.
  32. 2 points
    Vegas Halo Fan

    Another phisher

    Apparently someone figured out that most people are apprehensive about anything concerning the IRS. I got one of those calls with someone on the line. They said that if I didn't make arrangements to pay right away, the police were coming to my house to arrest me. I said "OK, where do I live?" The caller couldn't answer the question. I said "Nice try", and hung up.
  33. 1 point
    Karenknees

    2020 Democratic Field

    Just in Vegas last week. I put $200 on the over her tits were more than 50% of her body weight.
  34. 1 point
    fishbulb

    Spin Forum Dumping Bin

    What's so beautiful is that the accidentally sent letter states why he would have voted the way he did if he had voted differently in reality. Politicians, man.
  35. 1 point
    Talk about foriegn presence.
  36. 1 point
    Second Base

    The Angels rotation

    The team as a whole, I'm worried about. Their floor seems to be relatively high but the ceiling also appears to be relatively low. The rotation won't have Ohtani or Richards, which means it won't have that upside that last year's squad had. But with Harvey and Cahill added to the roster, as well as Suarez and Canning being ready to step in at some point, the back of the of the rotation figures to be a steadier presence. And offensively, well let's just call it like it is. On any given night, you're looking at a lineup with Cozart, Fletcher, La Stella, Pujols and Calhoun in it. That basically means that as long as a pitcher can successfully navigate Trout, Ohtani, Upton, Simmons, they'll be good for at least a couple innings. Looks like an 85 win team to me. Mediocre.
  37. 1 point
    fishbulb

    Trumped

    Well, if he'd lie about this, he clearly wouldn't lie about anything more important or consequential.
  38. 1 point
    jgimondo

    The Angels rotation

    This is a mediocre staff, 3rd place finish . Unless we add a front line starter ! (Keuchel)
  39. 1 point
    Spirit

    Trumped

    Umm ... wut?
  40. 1 point
    yk9001

    And in Fast Food News Part 2

    I may be the only man on this board who is 'meh' on bacon. It's fine, I have it for breakfast once in a while. I never found a need to have it on my burger or anything else. Never got the bacon craze.
  41. 1 point
    Keener

    The A Team

    I think they filmed some of that in good old Weed, CA. My high school english teacher throws a football pass in it. We "got" to watch his scene every once in a while.
  42. 1 point
    Harvey has pitched <checks notes> 4.1 innings this spring.
  43. 1 point
    I wish it was just the "back side" of the contract. So far Albert has not had a single year as an Angel that is as good as we hoped. Remember in 2012, when we all thought it was a down year and he'd bounce back in 2013? It turns out 2012--which was his worst year to that point--was his best year as an Angel. So we've had: 2012: Disappointing, but pretty good 2013-16: Mediocre at best, but not a total loss 2017-18: Why is this guy a major league player, let alone starter?
  44. 1 point
    Lol. I'm sorry but when you are a leader of a team, and you do shit like this, you have to be held accountable.
  45. 1 point
    Remember when we were 9-3? Season over.
  46. 1 point
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  48. 1 point
    I hope they figure out how to win.
  49. 1 point
    Captain Marvel It was good. Larson and Jackson are a good team. 7.5/10
  50. 1 point


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