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Some cheap options


Dochalo

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Any thoughts on guys that might come cheap ie players that could take a 1yr deal or minor league contract and an invite to spring?

 

Here's a few.  Some have been mentioned

 

Johan Santana

Roy Halladay

Scott Baker (he might get a 2yr deal)

Chris Young

Edison Volquez

Shaun Marcum

Jeff Karstens

 

Has there been any indication of what Burnett is gonna do?

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Baker, Halladay, Santana, Marcum as insurance would be great. Counting on them be part of the rotation would be ill advised but getting one of those guys as the #6 guy or possibly the long relief guy could make some sense. 

 

I've always liked Baker but his injuries have just been bad. 

 

I thought I read somewhere that Burnett wants to stay in Pitt or retire. 

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Burnett already said it's Pittsburgh or retirement so he's out of the question.  Johan, Halladay and Marcum are all SP I'd explore.  One pitcher no one is talking about right now that may end up being the big bargain of the offseason Tsuyoshi Wada.  Outstanding in Japan, came across and was set up for failure from the beginning.  

 

He was amazing in Japan, signed with baltimore in 2012 and needed TJ surgery immediately.  2013 was essentially his rehab year, which he pitched to a 4.03 ERA in AAA with a solid k/9 and BB/9.  He's left handed, 32 years old, low miles on his arm, features a deceptive delivery which makes his 90 mph FB hard to pick up on, and also offers a plus change up and plus slider. 

 

Honestly, at the very least I see Wada being a Jason Vargas type, but he has the upside to be a mid-rotation SP.  This guy (along with Hudson) are two pitchers Dipoto should've signed immediately after they were let go by their respective teams.  

 

Lots of pitching talent out there, we just have to have a GM smart enough to pick up pitchers better than Chris Vostad off waivers.  Use those picks for high reward players that you can stash in AAA.  Guys like Volstad, there really is no reward.  Even if things work out for him he's not a rotation worthy pitcher.  But Wada is. 

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Burnett already said it's Pittsburgh or retirement so he's out of the question.  Johan, Halladay and Marcum are all SP I'd explore.  One pitcher no one is talking about right now that may end up being the big bargain of the offseason Tsuyoshi Wada.  Outstanding in Japan, came across and was set up for failure from the beginning.  

 

He was amazing in Japan, signed with baltimore in 2012 and needed TJ surgery immediately.  2013 was essentially his rehab year, which he pitched to a 4.03 ERA in AAA with a solid k/9 and BB/9.  He's left handed, 32 years old, low miles on his arm, features a deceptive delivery which makes his 90 mph FB hard to pick up on, and also offers a plus change up and plus slider. 

 

Honestly, at the very least I see Wada being a Jason Vargas type, but he has the upside to be a mid-rotation SP.  This guy (along with Hudson) are two pitchers Dipoto should've signed immediately after they were let go by their respective teams.  

 

Lots of pitching talent out there, we just have to have a GM smart enough to pick up pitchers better than Chris Vostad off waivers.  Use those picks for high reward players that you can stash in AAA.  Guys like Volstad, there really is no reward.  Even if things work out for him he's not a rotation worthy pitcher.  But Wada is. 

 

Wada is definitely interesting.  But it concerns me when even Baltimore rejects a $5 million option.  

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Hard to believe that 18 months ago we were talking about having the best rotation in MLB with Weaver, Grienke, Wilson, Haren, and Santana.

 

Now we are dumpster diving.

 

Who would have thought...........

 

from the posts on this board, i would say 90% of the members here knew 

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Hard to believe that 18 months ago we were talking about having the best rotation in MLB with Weaver, Grienke, Wilson, Haren, and Santana.

 

Now we are dumpster diving.

 

Who would have thought...........

A lot can happen in 18 months.  Which is why we shouldn't panic and suggest we are going to suck for the next "five or ten years" as many doomsdayer have suggested.

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