Angels waiting for SP price to drop + NO interest in Colon

[bloodbrother]

But are there only one team looking for a second baseman? Anyone that was interested in Howie before is still interested in him now. Also, if the M's throw Franklin in on a package that includes Walker, then he will be traded to most likely the Rays, which means Howie can still be dealt to all the teams that have been mentioned like the Royals.

 

Yeah, good point. I'm just saying that maybe they don't go after Price and choose to keep Taijuan(which would be better for them IMO) and instead package Franklin with other stuff to get a SP from some other team. In any case, it just created more competition for the Halos when it comes to teams having 2B available to trade, which isn't good. Doesn't mean they can't get a deal done though

[Mark68]

I completely and utterly agree with what the Halos are doing right now.  That is a ludicrous contract for Scott Feldman.  I would rather see them do three 1 year incentive based deals for guys looking to rebound and give Shoemaker a chance for a spot as well.  Then you have four guys for 2 spot.  One of the other gets the long man spot.  Joe Blanton can suck it. 

 

Also, there are invariably a few pitchers that misplay the market and end up left with no where to go by the end of the offseason.  Like Lohse.  I think the compensation guys are at the biggest risk for this.  I think Ubaldo is going to overplay his hand. 

Hasn't Blanton already sucked it enough?

[Angel Dog and Beer]

Aaron Harang 2/16

[fan_since79]

I recall reading in the Times a few weeks ago about how the Dodgers are looking forward to a comeback season from Billingsley.

 

This is a pitcher who's never realized his potential due to injuries and other factors. I think he'll be a part of their rotation to start the season.

[Chuck]

Seems the Dodgers dont have room for Billingsley in their rotation.  Wonder what they would want for him?

 

Billingsley sucks. Dodgers fans I talk to cannot stand him. Why would we want him?

[jshep]

Well, Billingsley would currently be our 3rd best starter...

[Stradling]

Billingsley sucks. Dodgers fans I talk to cannot stand him. Why would we want him?

Because Feldman just got 3/30.

[AngelStew43]

Last year was a good experience for Richards.  I expect him to be better this season.  Possibly a lot better.

[Stradling]

Last year was a good experience for Richards. I expect him to be better this season. Possibly a lot better.

Totally agree, but to expect him to pitch 200 innings might be a little too much to ask of him. I think we need 200 innings from our third starter. I think he will put up about equal stats as a number 3 minus the total number of innings.

[jshep]

 

Mike DiGiovannaVerified account ‏@MikeDiGiovanna

With Scott Feldman off board, RHP Jason Hammel probably moved up on #Angels FA target list

 

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[fan_since79]

Billingsley sucks. Dodgers fans I talk to cannot stand him. Why would we want him?

 

He's a pitcher with "potential". Maybe Butcher can fix him.

 

Oh, what am I saying?!

[fan_since79]

Well, Billingsley would currently be our 3rd best starter...

 

That's a sad thought.

[James]

Billingsley sucks. Dodgers fans I talk to cannot stand him. Why would we want him?

The Dodger fans I know are more frustrated with his inconsistencies than saying he flat out sucks, Really would depend on what would go back to them since he has injury concerns, inconsistent and has never been an innings eater. I wouldnt give up much at all eventhough his salary is reasonable. 

[Inside Pitch]

Choose your poison jshep, pay Scott Feldman 3/30 or try to see if price drops.

 

That Phil Hughes for 24 mil deal sure looks nice right about now...

[Stradling]

As does the Vargas deal.

[jshep]

That Phil Hughes for 24 mil deal sure looks nice right about now...

 

Tim Hudson deal looks like highway robbery at this point.

[bloodbrother]

 

 

Mike DiGiovannaVerified account ‏@MikeDiGiovanna

With Scott Feldman off board, RHP Jason Hammel probably moved up on #Angels FA target list

 

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Oh

[Glen]

Well, I am hoping they sign Garza and trade for another starter.

 

 

I don't get all the love for Garza.  He was pretty bad with the Rangers last year, and I see no reason to expect him to turn it around if he signs with us.  

 

As the offseason progresses our options keep getting worse and worse.  

[Glen]

 

 

Mike DiGiovannaVerified account ‏@MikeDiGiovanna

With Scott Feldman off board, RHP Jason Hammel probably moved up on #Angels FA target list

 

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Hammel is a career 4.80 ERA, 1.440 WHIP pitcher.  He's this year's Joe Blanton.  I will be pissed if he's offered as a solution to out pitching woes.  He's more of the same.

[gurn67]

You'll all look stupid when Blanton narrowly beats out Pujols and Hamilton for 2014 AL Comback Player of the Year.

[Inside Pitch]

Billingsley sucks. Dodgers fans I talk to cannot stand him. Why would we want him?

 

And yet he is younger and has a better ERA+ than Garza in nearly the same amount of innings.   I think some of the hate for Billingsley has to do with the hype when he came up.  He's their Howie Kendrick -- he was supposed to be Kershaw.

[Chuck]

And yet he is younger and has a better ERA+ than Garza in nearly the same amount of innings.   I think some of the hate for Billingsley has to do with the hype when he came up.  He's their Howie Kendrick -- he was supposed to be Kershaw.

 

I suppose. But he's been awfully injury prone.

[Stradling]

Well Garza has a track record of being above league average. Last year when he went to Texas wasn't great, but no free agent pitcher is great. Hell, there is even risk in acquiring a guy like Price who was hurt last year. When the teams are looking at whether or not Garza or Santana are the best free agent pitchers in this years class, well needless to say it isn't a great class. I truly think year after year we will see free agent classes worsen and worsen, because teams are continuing to lock up talent.

[Cdaniel]

I don't get all the love for Garza.  He was pretty bad with the Rangers last year, and I see no reason to expect him to turn it around if he signs with us.  

 

As the offseason progresses our options keep getting worse and worse.  

 

Garza just happens to be the best available.  I think everyone would rather have Tanaka but the chances of landing him are slim.  I say roll the dice with Garza and trade for a #4.

 

 

 IMHO.

[arch stanton]

If we have to give 5 years to one of these free agents I'd just as soon give it (yes, and the draft pick) to Ervin than Garza.