McJobs

[TennAngelsFan]

I was just reading with interest everyones comments.  I know the McD workers are grateful for any kind of job in our little town.  If they advertised any opening you'd have hundred line up to apply.

 

This sounds weird but I have a guy in my warehouse  making $10.00 an hour putting together chairs and tables.  He was making around $80,000. as a manager two years ago in one of our factories that closed.  He's a great guy and a heck of a worker.  At his age in our town there is no way he will ever get a good job again.  The jobs just aren't here anymore. Some people simply have to move to where the jobs are.  He was just desperate to have any work at all.  I told him when he started it wasn't much of a job and he wouldn't like it but he does.  I have to run him off to close.

Edited December 6, 2013 by TennAngelsFan

[HaloMagic]

No one is saying they shouldn't be able to strike. They can strike all they want.

[Stradling]

Ok I am in the same industry as these strikers, and I don't agree with them even a little. How bout you be good at your job and move up . Or go to a place like the company I work with and work your way into management. I have been very fortunate enough to do very well working in the same industry they seem to think are taking them for granted.

[Caralho]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/26/us/conservative-leads-effort-to-raise-minimum-wage-in-california.html

[Brandon]

He's got a point. putting money in the middle class circulates and ignites the economy. When people have money they spend more, when they spend more business and the economy as a whole thrives.

[arch stanton]

Eventually, something's gotta give. This is not limited to the fast food industry. They're just the first and most vocal.These millions will not sit quietly in poverty forever. Saying they aren't trying and aren't willing to put in the work to improve their lives doesn't make it true. It's going to get ugly and everybody will wish they had at least tried to do something about it before the riots broke out.

 

And who is next? A sleazy lawyer in a black robe has already told a city it's ok to shaft their retirees. The ones who actually put in the work and earned their retirement. Detroit can cry poor and leave thousands without the pensions they were promised but when someone asks for more in-the-moment compensation they are whiners who are too lazy to work their way up from "entry level".

[HaloMagic]

Would you not classify flipping burgers as entry level?

[arch stanton]

 I would. But I haven't had to look for a job lately. Is it still possible to work a second job? It doesn't seem that it's possible to work extra hours since nobody wants you to qualify for full time. Gotta pay for the mandatory coverage they don't need somehow.

[Brandon]

I think if something drastic was going to happen it would have been the 1% or whatever protests at Wall St., not some entry level employees in a high turnover industry feeling entitled.

[Stradling]

Would you not classify flipping burgers as entry level?

I don't but I could be biased.

[Stradling]

Here's one thing I will add to Arch's defense. I don't know what the profit margins are at a place like McD's, I only know the company I work for. Where I work the food is less expensive and a much higher quality. At that same time our regular associates are compensated at a much higher rate. When you get into management it isn't even a comparison, our managers can make money that would put to shame most careers you can get with a college degree. The reason we can do this is we are a privately owned company that does not have stock holders to answer too. So in Arch's defense, there is wiggle room, but companies like that will never change their principles.

[Blarg]

He's got a point. putting money in the middle class circulates and ignites the economy. When people have money they spend more, when they spend more business and the economy as a whole thrives.

to put a McDonalds worker into the middle class you would have to pay them $35 an hour. Edited December 6, 2013 by Eric Notti

[Brandon]

I don't but I could be biased.

what degrees, background, or skill set must one have?

I've never been on monster or any other job website and saw something like "need three years experience" or various credentials to work in fast food.

hell, for most of us it was our first jobs in high school.

[Brandon]

to put a McDonalds worker into the middle class you would have to pay them $35 an hour.

true.

I meant in a broad scope and not just these employees. I think $15 an hour is somewhere around 2k a month.

it's been a while since I've seen it, but I think the poverty line is somewhere around 28k-36k a year and may or may not include total household incomes...I don't really remember.

[Adam]

There is so much opportunity out there and money to be had. I don't have any sympathy for these folks. 

[Jay]

Here's one thing I will add to Arch's defense. I don't know what the profit margins are at a place like McD's, I only know the company I work for. Where I work the food is less expensive and a much higher quality. At that same time our regular associates are compensated at a much higher rate. When you get into management it isn't even a comparison, our managers can make money that would put to shame most careers you can get with a college degree. The reason we can do this is we are a privately owned company that does not have stock holders to answer too. So in Arch's defense, there is wiggle room, but companies like that will never change their principles.

 

So that's why the white kids work at INO

[Brandon]

in and out do seem to have an abercrombie and fitch like hiring policy.

[Stradling]

So that's why the white kids work at INO

Jay, I am not sure how to take this. I'll answer it this way, it is a place that does a pretty good job of looking like the community they are in. One thing you have to be able to do is communicate. So if you struggle with English then you will probably struggle getting a job at INO.

[Stradling]

in and out do seem to have an abercrombie and fitch like hiring policy.

Go into my store in Downey and you woudln't say that. Go into my store in Southgate, or Lakewood, or Santa Fe Springs, or Pico Rivera, or Norwalk and you will see that is pretty false. But we do attract a different applicant than say McDonalds.

[St1ck]

Now I feel like getting a Double-Double for lunch. 

[Stradling]

That's what I'm having, again. haha

[Brandon]

Go into my store in Downey and you woudln't say that. Go into my store in Southgate, or Lakewood, or Santa Fe Springs, or Pico Rivera, or Norwalk and you will see that is pretty false. But we do attract a different applicant than say McDonalds.

no thanks

[Caralho]

Hey Strad, any chance of an in-n-out opening in Artesia or Cerritos? I'd like one closer than the ones in Norwalk, Lakewood, La palma or Long Beach town center.

[Blarg]

Been to the In N Out in Baldwin Park off the 10 fwy. The drive through girl had a very difficult time with a pretty simple single burger with no onions and extra pickles. Down the fwy I find extra onions and no pickles. It was pretty much an onion with a hamburger sandwiching it.

 

Not all of In N Out's associates are all that articulate with the English language but at least she was good looking. The car smelled of raw onions for a week.

Edited December 6, 2013 by Eric Notti

[Brandon]

I know a lot of good looking ladies that have one time or another worker there. I have yet to see anyone below maybe a 5 or 6 there. Even the token race hire to come across as diverse (especially after someone tried to sue them for discrimination) is good looking.