Two other trade ideas...

[Chuck]

Clever guy on Twitter and I have been having an exchange. He came up with the following.

 

Howie Kendrick to the Royals for Y. Ventura and D. Duffy

 

Mark Trumbo to the Pirates for Jeff Locke

 

Thoughts?

[Scott34]

No way the Royals do deal 1 but I would do it.

 

2nd deal is interesting.

[jshep]

I would absolutely do the Royals deal, really doubt the Royals would.

 

Jeff Locke makes me kind of nervous though

Edited December 4, 2013 by jshep

[HaloCory22]

Locke was nails for a while there. Up and down in the 2nd half. I'd be into that deal. Just gotta hope he cuts down the BB/9. 

 

I think we'd have to throw something else in along with Kendrick for the KC deal.

[Chuck]

No way the Royals do deal 1 but I would do it.

 

2nd deal is interesting.

 

I don't know, Scott. The Royals are trying to beef up their offense to compete with the Tigers and Indians. They're also going after Beltran and looking to sign a FA starting pitcher.

[Chuck]

I would absolutely do the Royals deal, not sure the Royals would.

 

Jeff Locke makes me kind of nervous though

 

Locke tired in the 2nd half, in what was his first full major league season. I can't put too much fault on him for that. He needs to get stronger so he can endure a full season, but he looked great for the majority of the season. Looks like a younger, better version of Jason Vargas.

[John Shay]

No way Royals do that. I could see Duffy and a lesser prospect.

 

IDK about Locke either. My guess is the Pirates would do it, but Angels probably looking for more.

[Brent Maguire]

That first deal would be absolutely awesome. We could sign one starter and just have Duffy and Ventura battle it out for the 5th spot and the other one takes a spot in the pen.

Locke is interesting. He's not my first choice but I think I would be ok with him as our 4th or 5th guy. I would need to look into his numbers more. If we go after Locke, we should try to get one of their non elite prospects so we can kill 2 birds with one stone in a trade.

[tdawg87]

As someone who was friends with Jeff Locke in High School it would be incredibly weird to see him in an Angels uniform. That said his stats weren't all that impressive last year. A 4.5 BB/9 is terrible for a starter (or any pitcher, really) and his K rate isn't very good either.

 

But I guess if you want young, cost-controlled starters with upside well there you go.

[Inside Pitch]

Clever guy on Twitter and I have been having an exchange. He came up with the following.

 

Howie Kendrick to the Royals for Y. Ventura and D. Duffy

 

Mark Trumbo to the Pirates for Jeff Locke

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Make both those moves then turn around and sign a DH.

[tdawg87]

Make both those moves then turn around and sign a DH.

 

Now that I would do, so long as the Angels were still very much in on Tanaka or Garza.

[Inside Pitch]

Now that I would do, so long as the Angels were still very much in on Tanaka or Garza.

 

Well, they would have more money available than they currently do.

 

Would be nice.

[Brent Maguire]

Locke's minor league track record showed that last year's walk rate might have been a fluke.

I mean, it wouldn't be the first time a guy's control got worse when he went to the majors but I imagine he can lower his walk rate to somewhere in the 3.5 BB/9 range.

[Chuck]

Make both those moves then turn around and sign a DH.

Should be able to get Corey Hart for cheap.

[Brent Maguire]

Should be able to get Corey Hart for cheap.

I think he's the most undervalued player this offseason.

If he can put up a 125-130 wRC+ and a low .800's OPS, I would absolutely love to get him. It sounds like Milwaukee is still very interested to retain him though.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

@Buster_ESPN: Oakland talking with multiple teams about Brett Anderson, an attractive option among the starting pitchers available. Owed $8m for '14.

[Inside Pitch]

Should be able to get Corey Hart for cheap.

 

Yup...  lots of options.

[Chuck]

@Buster_ESPN: Oakland talking with multiple teams about Brett Anderson, an attractive option among the starting pitchers available. Owed $8m for '14.

 

 

Too much of an injury risk IMO.

[ettin]

The Royals plan on at least one of those two pitchers being used in their rotation so the chance of it happening is remote in my opinion.

 

Kendrick for Kyle Zimmer, Justin Marks, and Tim Collins would be best from a prospect haul standpoint.

 

I know you all think I'm nuts but Zimmer and Billy Butler for Kendrick would be fair value too. Butler makes slightly more money than Kendrick and is a DH-only bat which really limits his value AND would make him a late-game bench bat during games against NL opponents which limits his value even further.

[Stradling]

If probably do either of those moves. If you get Butler then you trade Trumbo too.

[ettin]

If probably do either of those moves. If you get Butler then you trade Trumbo too.

 

Yes Butler would require a Trumbo trade but that could be to any other team that is in need of his services. The idea of two years of Butler to replace Trumbo's bat is appealing to me simply because Butler has good power and a much better OBP (which would fit into Scotty's .340 OBP theme).

[Hoops McCann]

Why would the Royals even contemplate that trade?  It's fairly one-sided and not in a good way for the Royals.

 

The Locke for Trumbo would seem plausable, although I think the Buccos would rather hold on to him as AJ Burnett is not a lock to come back and if he does, it's likely only for one year.  But, they do have some pitching depth and do need some power in that line-up.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Rhe locke deal makes a ton of sense, IMO. I halfway was expecring that to have gotten done at the deadline, but don't know if pittsburg wants to move any young arms with burnett and aj being quesrion marks for next season.

[Greg_Bearringer]

I like the trades-- especially if it would mean Corey Hart as the new Trumbo. If we don't have Trumbo, Hart is the perfect fit for this club-- he can play LF, 1B, DH and will get on base more than Trumbo. 

[bloodbrother]

No way the Royals do deal 1 but I would do it.

 

2nd deal is interesting.

 

Remember now, Dayton Moore is the Royals GM. Dude traded Wil Myers AND Odorizzi for what? 2 seasons of James Shields. With Myers gone, they are now looking to overpay for an aging Beltran for one of their OF spots. I feel bad for Royals fans

 

In any case, that would be such an awesome deal for the Halos if that happened.

Edited December 5, 2013 by bloodbrother