Fletcher: Trumbo not enough to get good starting pitcher

[jsnpritchett]

https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/407900671828975616

 

Jeff Fletcher ‏@JeffFletcherOCR

#Angels have found that teams not willing to part with what they'd need to justify moving Trumbo. Kendrick now best (only) bet to get a SP.

 

[mtangelsfan]

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe they could use Burjous to sweeten the deal.............................................

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

crap.

[wopphil]

Wow, I find that surprising.  I was sure that at least a couple GMs would be intrigued enough by Trumbo's power to part with a solid young pitcher. 

 

I say don't trade any of them.  Keep the team intact and sign two starting pitchers. 

[mtangelsfan]

Seriously though, if they thought they could get a solid starter for Trumbo straight up, then Dipoto is stupid.  Heck, they won't get one with Kendrick either. 

Edited December 3, 2013 by mtangelsfan

[Scott34]

This is a disaster.

[mtangelsfan]

This can't be real though.  They weren't delusional enough to believe they were going to get a solid starter for Trumbo straight up.

 

Right?  Right?

[Stradling]

I am guessing here that if we were to give up both Peter and Trumbo and we received a pitcher, we still wouldn't be happy. You still aren't going to see us get a stud pitcher for those two, so we would be using two of our trade chips to get a fringe number 2 pitcher, probably a number 3, then we would need a 3rd baseman, and an outfield/1b/dh. The best bet is still to sign Garza and or Tanaka and move Aybar or Kendrick for studs that are a year or two away.

[fan_since79]

If it were not for the two months each year when Trumbo's bat disappears, we could have any pitcher we wanted for him.

 

Without those mega-slumps, you're talking about a 45-home run, 130 RBI type hitter.

 

 

edit: changed the numbers a bit to reflect his potential.

Edited December 3, 2013 by fan_since79

[Chuckster70]

Then trade Kendrick. No big deal. I'm intrigued with Trumbo more than Kendrick anyhow. Plus we have Green and Lindsey.

If you cannot get equal value for Kendrick keep him and sign two SP via FA.

No big deal.

[tdawg87]

Hey Arte, it's time to bite the pillow.

[Stradling]

I like Howie, Aybar and Trumbo, but if it were up to me I would trade Aybar, then Trumbo and then Howie. I don't necessarily think that Romine is better than Green, but I would rather have the defensive player that Romine can be over what Green brings with the bat. I also think that Howie could play a little outfield if we get thin there, so it wouldn't hurt too much to move Trumbo, plus I just like Howie better as a player than Trumbo. If we were drafting better this would all be a non issue.

[tdawg87]

BTW I actually don't see this as much of an issue. I figured Kendrick would get traded over Trumbo and Aybar, and I think he would easily bring in a number 4 guy. They just have to be all in on Tanaka and Garza.

[xboom28x]

This doesn't surprise me at all.

[fan_since79]

I really, really hope that Garrett Richards is not our #3 starter next year.

[jsnpritchett]

BTW I actually don't see this as much of an issue. I figured Kendrick would get traded over Trumbo and Aybar, and I think he would easily bring in a number 4 guy. They just have to be all in on Tanaka and Garza.

 

I'll ask the same question I asked people before: do you really think we're going to be all-in on Tanaka and/or Garza?  Signing both will likely add a minimum of $30 million a year to the payroll.   Even trading Kendrick for a lower-salaried player obviously wouldn't offset what it would take to get Tanaka and Garza.

[jsnpritchett]

I really, really hope that Garrett Richards is not our #3 starter next year.

 

[wopphil]

I would think that Trumbo ought to be able to bring back a guy like Skaggs (who has actually struggled quite a bit at the major league level).  Obviously a guy like Skaggs is not established and comes with a fair degree of risk (he could be a total bust), but it would seem to me that a Trumbo/Skaggs trade would be fair. 

[Stradling]

I really, really hope that Garrett Richards is not our #3 starter next year.

I really, really hope that Garrett Richards pitches like a #3 starter next year.

[Turd Ferguson]

I think the book is out on the Angels FO.  Hold out until they get desperate and then pounce.

[T.G.]

The way the free agent market is moving (fast), I wouldn't be shocked if the Angels were somehow left high and dry... As far as trades go... Given what the Rays got for Shields (Wil Myers), getting Price doesn't seem realistic either. 

[fan_since79]

This offseason so far is setting up pretty well for Joe Blanton.

[xboom28x]

I'm actually at the point where I think Kendrick or Aybar should be traded for mere pitching prospects. Take that extra salary on top of the $ freed up in non-tenders and go get two starting pitchers whatever caliber. With another $30M coming off the books next year, we should be in ok shape.

[nando714]

Trombo will be traded shortly

[mtangelsfan]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not surprised that Trumo couldn't get us a strong starter.  What I am surprised about is how the article insinuates that the Angels FO seemed to believe that he would.  Now the article could be complete BS.  I hope it is.

[tdawg87]

I'll ask the same question I asked people before: do you really think we're going to be all-in on Tanaka and/or Garza?  Signing both will likely add a minimum of $30 million a year to the payroll.   Even trading Kendrick for a lower-salaried player obviously wouldn't offset what it would take to get Tanaka and Garza.

 

I didn't mean they should get BOTH.