Update on posting system

[Stradling]

!#!@%!#%!#&%^%!!!!!

[YouthofToday]

If a club puts up $20 million, and only has to pay if they sign the player, all 30 teams will be bidding on Tanaka.

Tanaka will likely get a $100 million deal+ if rumors on the new posting system are true -- if he is posted.

[bloodbrother]

I'm going to laugh in four years when Blanton reappears and pitches well for a team, then have AO bitch at Butcher for not figuring him out.

 

He'll go back to Oakland where it all began and probably dominate for them

 

I'm already looking forward to AO's posts about Kazmir this season when he's putting up a 3.30 ERA for Oakland and K'ing 180 batters

[Chuck]

Offer 6 years 120 million. That should get it done. If this guy is every bit of what scouts say, do it.

[Tyler]

Yu Darvish rhp
6 years/$56M (2012-17)

[Ohtaniland]

BOSTON

 

Matsuzaka, Daisuke

6 yr/$52M (07-12)

[Chimi]

Both Darvish and Dice-K cost over $100 Million when you factor in how much the team paid on the bid.

[Tyler]

So Tanaka should be in the $80MM-$120MM range? For the actual contract.

Edited December 5, 2013 by Shane

[Chuck]

I hear the Japanese team that Tanaka currently is on will probably pass on the 20 million and keep him now.

[YouthofToday]

I hear the Japanese team that Tanaka currently is on will probably pass on the 20 million and keep him now.

Makes sense. Why would they post him less than one year before reaches free agency in the NPB?

He is a financial asset for them. Might as maximize value out of him until the offseason before his last year of club control if the transfer is capped.

[Docwaukee]

What a dumb idea. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

Can't compare contracts Darvish and Dice-K got because they could only negotiate with one team.

Tanaka, if he's posted at all, will have 15+ teams bidding for him. I expect him to get $18-20M a year. 5-6 years.

[John Shay]

I really hope they make a strong push to acquire Tanaka, if they even decide to post him now.

 

Hopefully a 6 / 135 would be enough to get it done. It's a huge gamble not knowing how he will pitch in MLB, but could be well worth it if he's anything like Darvish. On the other hand, he could be terrible like Dice-K.

[gotbeer]

MLB, NPB Reach Agreement On Posting System

 

 

The Times report says the final details are being ironed out, but Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports spoke with a source who told him that if multiple teams submit the same bid, the player will be allowed to negotiate with all of those clubs. 

 

 

MLB fully expects Rakuten Golden Eagles ace Masahiro Tanaka to be posted, Rosenthal adds (All Twitter links).

 

 

Grats on becoming a Skank or a Doggie.

[Inside Pitch]

Some places are reporting that Rakuten will indeed post him, others saying the opposite.   

Regardless -- If the Yankees sign him they would go over the cap.  The Dodgers have shown little regard for the cap.   Basically, any and every team that is capable of spending 15+ mil per year on a pitcher would be in play for his services.

 

I have a hard time seeing anyone outbidding LA.

[tdawg87]

I still have a feeling Arte is willing to go all in. Yes it will cost a shit ton of money and put the team over the tax but honestly what else can he do? Garza is going to likely do the same thing and he is 5 years older. Price is going to deplete our future.

 

I could be wrong and if I am I won't blame Arte for not wanting to spend 100+ million on what is essentially a prospect, I just feel like Tanaka is Plan A and has been all along.

[gotbeer]

I still have a feeling Arte is willing to go all in. Yes it will cost a shit ton of money and put the team over the tax but honestly what else can he do? Garza is going to likely do the same thing and he is 5 years older. Price is going to deplete our future.

 

I could be wrong and if I am I won't blame Arte for not wanting to spend 100+ million on what is essentially a prospect, I just feel like Tanaka is Plan A and has been all along.

 

If he's going to go all in on Tanaka, and go over the tax.  Maybe he should have gone all in after the season ended, and re-signed Vargas and Williams to make the team that much more complete.  

 

Going all in and signing Tanaka now, would still mean Blanton is the 5th starter, and we have no depth beyond that in starting pitching.  

[Turd Ferguson]

Isn't it ironic that our pitching coach is named Butcher?  Don't ya think?

[VariousCrap]

So MLB once again favors a plan that will lead to teams spending more on a player than they should.  Who would have guessed that?

 

I'm sorry, but I wouldn't offer a guy who has never pitched in the big leagues 20 million a year.  That just seems stupid.

 

Finally, if Tanaka ends up not posting, Garza's price just went up!

[tdawg87]

If he's going to go all in on Tanaka, and go over the tax.  Maybe he should have gone all in after the season ended, and re-signed Vargas and Williams to make the team that much more complete.  

 

Going all in and signing Tanaka now, would still mean Blanton is the 5th starter, and we have no depth beyond that in starting pitching.  

 

Well yeah if no more moves are made. That's unlikely to be the case though. The Angels need 2 starters.

[John Shay]

Finally, if Tanaka ends up not posting, Garza's price just went up!

 

Garza's price is going up regardless if Tanaka is posted or not.

 

When guys like Feldman are asking 3/ 30, and rumors of 120+ for Tanaka are out there, Garza can just sit back and watch his stock soar.

[VariousCrap]

Well, just because Feldman is asking 3/30 doesn't mean he is going to get it.

 

At this point I hope Tanaka posts and the Yanks and Dogs get caught up in a bidding war.

 

The Angels should focus on Garza, Arroyo and one more relief arm.

[gotbeer]

So MLB once again favors a plan that will lead to teams spending more on a player than they should.  Who would have guessed that?

 

I'm sorry, but I wouldn't offer a guy who has never pitched in the big leagues 20 million a year.  That just seems stupid.

 

Finally, if Tanaka ends up not posting, Garza's price just went up!

 

How much would you offer a guy that's never pitched out of high school?

[VariousCrap]

How much would you offer a guy that's never pitched out of high school?

 

 

Not 20 million a year as suggested in this thread.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Rakuten Golden Eagles May Not Post Masahiro Tanaka

By Steve Adams [December 5 at 12:00pm CST]

Rakuten Golden Eagles president Yozo Tachibana addressed the Japanese media today and indicated that the team may not necessarily post Masahiro Tanaka in light of the new posting system's $20MM maximum bid, according to a report from Sponichi (Japanese link).Dylan Hernandez of the L.A. Times elaborates in his most recent article and offers translated quotes from Tachibana.

 

"There's a possibility we won't take the next step," said Tachibana. As Newsday's David Lennon noted on Twitter today, the Golden Eagles may think that retaining Tanaka is more valuable than the $20MM maximum posting fee, which is a mere fraction of the $75MM+ posting fee that was rumored under the old system.

 

Hernandez notes that the Golden Eagles will be under "immense public pressure" to post Tanaka despite the new rules. That wouldn't guarantee anything, however. Tanaka failing to hit the market after this long, drawn out process would be a major impact to interested teams who are now dreaming of their increased chances to land the highly touted ace. The Yankees have been prioritizing Tanaka but would have to turn elsewhere to fill out a rotation in need of a significant boost.

 

Should Tanaka stay in Japan, the cases for Ervin Santana, Matt Garza and Ubaldo Jimenez would only be strengthened, as their primary competition would be off the market