Update on posting system

[floplag]

its basically creating a draft so teams cant overbid to buy the player.... everyone would post the max and he would go the the worst record.. or the team would pull him back to save face so their star doesn't go to Houston

[jshep]

Not sure this is great news for the Angels if the worse record is prioritized.

 

At a 20 million max bid on the posting fee, I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple teams that haven't previously been incredibly active jump in, including teams with worse records like the Cubs, Jays, Mariners, Mets.

 

Hell, with a 20 million bid, I wouldn't be shocked to even see someone like the Astros jump in.

Edited December 4, 2013 by jshep

[John Shay]

Sounds like its not very clear yet as far as multiple teams with the same winning bid.

 

I've read the worst record scenario and also saw something that the player would be able to chose which team to negotiate with.

 

Sounds like a longshot for the Angels either way.

[Scott34]

This is a terrible thing for the Angels.  Welcome to the Cubs, Masahiro!

 

 

Edit: unless it's that negotiate with the top 3 teams thing, then Welcome to the Yankees, Masahiro!

Edited December 4, 2013 by Scott34

[Scott34]

So yeah you can kiss Tanaka goodbye. Man this is a devastating start to the offseason.

[Richard]

So does this mean we're Fu##ed? It's not official until someone says Season OVER.

[Chuck]

Not sure this is great news for the Angels if the worse record is prioritized.

 

At a 20 million max bid on the posting fee, I wouldn't be surprised to see a couple teams that haven't previously been incredibly active jump in, including teams with worse records like the Cubs, Jays, Mariners, Mets.

 

Hell, with a 20 million bid, I wouldn't be shocked to even see someone like the Astros jump in.

 

Yep. The Astros do have some money to spend.

[Chuck]

It's time for the Angels to move on from Tanaka. I thought it was a pipedream to begin with anyhow.

[WallyWorld]

So yeah you can kiss Tanaka goodbye. Man this is a devastating start to the offseason decade.

 

Fixed.

[nate]

According to Joel Sherman if more than one teams bids the max, all the teams that hit the max bid can negotiate with Tanaka.  It doesn't go in order by record.

[nate]

 

Joel Sherman

MLB offer to NPB was max posting bid $20M, any team willing to pay can negotiate with plyr for prescribed 1-month period. Plyr picks team

 

 

Joel Sherman

For example with Tanaka: Any club could negotiate, but knows it will have to pay Golden Eagles $20M on top of pact for RHP

 

[AngelsLakersFan]

I'm not sure what the Japanese teams had to gain from this deal. It seems like they just pissed away a good $40 million on the Tanaka posting alone, not to mention all the others.

 

Also at just $20 million I wonder if we will always see the elite talent get posted in the future. It might not make financial sense to let some of these players go. For example, there is no way the Angels would let Mike Trout out of his contract for $20 million.

[SoWhat]

 

 

Joel Sherman

MLB offer to NPB was max posting bid $20M, any team willing to pay can negotiate with plyr for prescribed 1-month period. Plyr picks team

 

 

Joel Sherman

For example with Tanaka: Any club could negotiate, but knows it will have to pay Golden Eagles $20M on top of pact for RHP

 

 

 

 

Soooo, he'll be a Yankee or Dodger?

[AngelsLakersFan]

According to Joel Sherman if more than one teams bids the max, all the teams that hit the max bid can negotiate with Tanaka.  It doesn't go in order by record.

 

I suppose this is good - certainly good news for the Angels, even if it does mean the team would need to go way over the luxury tax.

[WallyWorld]

my thought from the beginning has been that the Yankees desperately need pitching this offseason, Tanaka is probably the best pitcher available, and thus it's a pretty safe bet he'll be a Yankee.

[tdawg87]

This is stupid.

 

Make the max bid, and pray to God that he likes Anaheim. Maybe entice him with the fact that there won't be as much pressure and that Angels Stadium is a pitcher's park. Then offer the moon for him.

[SoWhat]

Maybe Conger can help with the recruiting 

[KevinStockerIsGod]

my thought from the beginning has been that the Yankees desperately need pitching this offseason, Tanaka is probably the best pitcher available, and thus it's a pretty safe bet he'll be a Yankee.

 

This actually hurts teams against the luxury tax if they won't go above.  The Yankees are spending, but they don't want to go above the tax.  This may hurt them actually, now that the player salary may be higher than previously thought. 

[Broad Street]

Maybe Conger can help with the recruiting

Idk if you're aware but the Koreans and Japanese aren't on the best of terms.

[Chuck]

Maybe Conger can help with the recruiting 

Conger is Korean.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

I'm sure he knows Conger is Korean and he was joking.

[SoWhat]

Bill Shaikin â€@BillShaikin25s

Posting proposal: Player can negotiate with all teams that make max bid for rights. That means: FA bidding war!

 

 

 

Angels need to be aggressive. Offer something around 5/75

[tdawg87]

10/200

[Gil]

If it was widely assumed that it would cost at least $120 million to get Tanaka under the old system (posting and contract), I highly doubt the Angels will be able to be competitive in any type of bidding war with their $15 mil. Of course trading Howie or a willingness to surpass the luxury tax threshold could change that. 

[HaloFan85]

I'm not sure what the Japanese teams had to gain from this deal. It seems like they just pissed away a good $40 million on the Tanaka posting alone, not to mention all the others.

 

Also at just $20 million I wonder if we will always see the elite talent get posted in the future. It might not make financial sense to let some of these players go. For example, there is no way the Angels would let Mike Trout out of his contract for $20 million.

Better than nothing, which is what they'd get if MLB just waited and let these japanese players reach international free agent status (9 seasons).  That would be only 2 more years for Tanaka and he'd still only be 27 years old when he hits free agency.