Thanks a lot Arte

[Scott34]

That Kendrick for Lee and Withrow deal looks awfully good right now. This could be the one (non) move that ruins the offseason.

So thanks again, for committing your 3rd huge mistake in the last 2 years. Stay out of it.

Not that I trust Dipoto much more but Arte needs to back way off.

If Williams or Blanton are anywhere near the #5 spot in the rotation I'm going to puke.

[mancini79]

Ummm, where is your proof that Arte nixed the deal?

[Taylor]

Ummm, where is your proof that Arte nixed the deal?

 

The proof is that Arte is a poopoohead!!!

[Scott34]

http://www.gammonsdaily.com/cj-wilson-and-the-angels-pitching/

[seenoevil]

Artie is the MAN. Go jump ship and join the Dodgers

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

http://www.gammonsdaily.com/cj-wilson-and-the-angels-pitching/

Do you believe all of Gammons' rumors? I don't buy that it was a done deal. 

[Taylor]

Arte didn't want to trade one of the Angels' two black players. I don't blame him.

[m0nkey]

Two white guys for one brother.  Boy have times changed

[mancini79]

http://www.gammonsdaily.com/cj-wilson-and-the-angels-pitching/

 

Article couldn't be more vague. Since I'm not a fan of Sosh, I say he was the one that overruled the trade.

[Scott34]

The only person with authority to overrule Dipoto's decisions is Arte.

And yes I believe Gammons more than any other reporter.

[mancini79]

The only person with authority to overrule Dipoto's decisions is Arte.

And yes I believe Gammons more than any other reporter.

 

There is a reason why Gammons didn't specifically say "Arte". It was purposely written to be vague.

[Scott34]

There is a reason why Gammons didn't specifically say "Arte". It was purposely written to be vague.

Right. Gammons isn't in the business of pointing fingers and ridiculing. Although Arte pretty much deserves it at this point.

Dipoto wouldn't care what Scioscia thinks (See: Hatcher, Abreu, etc.)

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

The only person with authority to overrule Dipoto's decisions is Arte.

And yes I believe Gammons more than any other reporter.

Gammons' blog is a joke. He posted a short, very vague paragraph almost 5 weeks after the trade deadline. The blog post doesn't have any comments. Nobody reads that crap.

 

I believe Rosenthal and Stark more than Gammons.

 

 

Angels, Dodgers Discussed Trade For Kendrick In July

By Mark Polishuk [August 19, 2013 at 9:21pm CST]

The Angels and Dodgers "held extensive trade discussions" about a possible deal that would've sent Howie Kendrick from Angel Stadium to Chavez Ravine, FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports.  Negotiations went on right up until the July 31 deadline, a source tells Rosenthal, and Zach Lee would've been part of the package that went back to the Angels in return.  It isn't clear which team backed away from the deal.

 

Kendrick also drew attention from the Blue Jays and Royals before the deadline as the Angelsopenly shopped a number of pieces on their roster in an attempt to gauge their trade value and obtain young, MLB-ready pitching.  (Alberto Callaspo and Scott Downs ended up being the only notable Angels moved in July.)  ESPN's Jayson Stark reported on July 30 that the Angels and Dodgers had discussed Kendrick, but there was no indication that a deal was close.

 

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/08/angels-dodgers-discussed-trade-for-kendrick-in-july.html#disqus_thread

[Stradling]

Gammons' blog is a joke. He posted a short, very vague paragraph almost 5 weeks after the trade deadline. The blog post doesn't have any comments. Nobody reads that crap.

I believe Rosenthal and Stark more than Gammons.

Angels, Dodgers Discussed Trade For Kendrick In July

By Mark Polishuk [August 19, 2013 at 9:21pm CST]

The Angels and Dodgers "held extensive trade discussions" about a possible deal that would've sent Howie Kendrick from Angel Stadium to Chavez Ravine, FOX Sports' Ken Rosenthal reports. Negotiations went on right up until the July 31 deadline, a source tells Rosenthal, and Zach Lee would've been part of the package that went back to the Angels in return. It isn't clear which team backed away from the deal.

Kendrick also drew attention from the Blue Jays and Royals before the deadline as the Angelsopenly shopped a number of pieces on their roster in an attempt to gauge their trade value and obtain young, MLB-ready pitching. (Alberto Callaspo and Scott Downs ended up being the only notable Angels moved in July.) ESPN's Jayson Stark reported on July 30 that the Angels and Dodgers had discussed Kendrick, but there was no indication that a deal was close.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/08/angels-dodgers-discussed-trade-for-kendrick-in-july.html#disqus_thread

More proof.

[ettin]

Despite the argument about who nixed what, that potential deal would have been a good one for us if it had gone through.

[Brent Maguire]

I have no idea whether that deal fell through or not but that would have been a great deal for us. 

 

Signing Smith might not have been necessary and Lee would've easily been our top prospect. Plus you lose Howie's deal and end up having 13 million more dollars to spend potentially. 

[fan_since79]

If we lose Kendrick, who's going to be left to ground into all those rally-killing double plays? Every team needs one of those guys to keep the game honest.

 

 

[Mudville]

The only person with authority to overrule Dipoto's decisions is Arte.

And yes I believe Gammons more than any other reporter.

Who overrules Coletti's deals? Or maybe Coletti just pulled out considering the last trade between the Angels and Dodgers took place 2 decades ago, the one before that 4. Extra points if you can name the players involved.

[rick99gtp]

It isn't clear which team backed away from the deal.

 

Thanks Arte.

 

Quit wasting our time with these posts.

Edited December 1, 2013 by rick99gtp

[Fregosi2Knoop]

If we lose Kendrick, who's going to be left to ground into all those rally-killing double plays? Every team needs one of those guys to keep the game honest.

 

If Howie were to be traded, Albert would slide into the GIDP slot, and we wouldn't miss a beat.

[Taylor]

Article couldn't be more vague. Since I'm not a fan of Sosh, I say he was the one that overruled the trade.

 

I blame Obama.

[Taylor]

If we lose Kendrick, who's going to be left to ground into all those rally-killing double plays? Every team needs one of those guys to keep the game honest.

 

 

We could bring Torii back.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

If we lose Kendrick, who's going to be left to ground into all those rally-killing double plays? Every team needs one of those guys to keep the game honest.

 

 

I'm sure that Albert Pujols would have stepped up to fill the role. He's a team player.

Edited December 1, 2013 by Vegas Halo Fan

[Scott34]

Thanks Arte.

 

Quit wasting our time with these posts.

 

So you choose to fully believe Rosenthal yet fully disprove Gammons?  Even though there is a history of Arte making baseball decisions and Dipoto not having a ton of pull?

 

Quit wasting my time with these posts.

[James]

So you choose to fully believe Rosenthal yet fully disprove Gammons?  Even though there is a history of Arte making baseball decisions and Dipoto not having a ton of pull?

 

Quit wasting my time with these posts.

This is all speculation and you dont know the reality of the front office dynamics anymore than anyone else on this forum. There is no doubt that Arte is a hands on owner but there is little proof that he is pulling the trigger on deals that Dipoto did not want to happen.