Dave Cameron (Fangraphs) on the trade

[Angelsjunky]

Read about it here.

 

Cameron nails it here:

 

"The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same."

 

Its almost embarrassing. I'd say that the Angels are on their way to becoming a joke of a franchise, but the thing is the last four years have been terrible so we're already there. This trade just confirms it. I was hoping that we'd see a shift in gears this off-season, but it looks like more Dipoto being Dipoto.

[jshep]

Ya, that's pretty brutal. Not much to disagree with, but it hurts nonetheless.

 

We're the pre-Sandy Alderson Mets.

[AngelsLakersFan]

What's funny is that Cameron rips the trade and he didn't even realize we gave up Grichuk as well.

[Glen]

I'm officially off the Dipoto bandwagon. This trade sucks.

[Angelsjunky]

I was thinking early (90s) Peter Angelos Orioles.

[Angelsjunky]

Grichuk is a C+/B- prospect, which still makes him worth a lot more than Salas, who is just another in the line of Gutierrezes that Dipoto seems to love so much.

 

Wait a minute...Dipoto WAS a Gutierrez/Salas type. Hmm.

[bloodbrother]

They trade Callaspo away at midseason, creating a hole at 3B. They then patch that hole by trading Bourjos away, getting an older, more expensive and less valuable player in return

 

I'm not sure this FO knows exactly what it's trying to do

[tdawg87]

This organization is the Corky of the MLB.

[mtangelsfan]

Life goes on Tdawg, life goes on.

[AngelsLakersFan]

They trade Callaspo away at midseason, creating a hole at 3B. They then patch that hole by trading Bourjos away, getting an older, more expensive and less valuable player in return

 

I'm not sure this FO knows exactly what it's trying to do

 

This is the issue here. There is no direction. The Callaspo for Green trade makes sense until we apparently decide we have no use for Green - just like Oakland realized. 

[mtangelsfan]

Except they never even tried Green at 3rd.  Not once.  That was the head scratcher for me.

[tdawg87]

Green does make Kendrick tradeable. I mean, our infield defense would be hilarious, but still.

[gurn67]

I'm sitting here watching one organization that is doing pretty much everything right and one that isn't. Don't know if it's poor ownership or poor decision making in the front office but I'm tired of getting owned.

[jshep]

Green does make Kendrick tradeable. I mean, our infield defense would be hilarious, but still.

 

Trumbo 3B, Green SS, Freese 2B for the lolz.

[beatlesrule]

Read about it here.

 

Cameron nails it here:

 

"The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same."

 

Its almost embarrassing. I'd say that the Angels are on their way to becoming a joke of a franchise, but the thing is the last four years have been terrible so we're already there. This trade just confirms it. I was hoping that we'd see a shift in gears this off-season, but it looks like more Dipoto being Dipoto.

 

Then find a different team to cheer for.  Change your SN to Cardinals junky and go on their board.

[tdawg87]

Holy overreaction

[jshep]

Quick Superfans, AngelsJunky is destroying the city!

 

SOMEONE HAS TO STOP HIM!

[AngelsLakersFan]

I'm sitting here watching one organization that is doing pretty much everything right and one that isn't. Don't know if it's poor ownership or poor decision making in the front office but I'm tired of getting owned.

 

It's been an organizational imperative since 2009. I'm not sure what happens first, the team completely bottoms out or ends up saved by an influx of young pitching talent we are supposedly trying to farm.

[Chuck]

I like how those who rip the trade call those who stick up for the trade superfans. Holy Christ Almighty, I need a smoke.

 

I have never been surrounded by so many pessimists in my entire life.

[tdawg87]

No no no, that isn't what anybody did. A superfan is someone who tells another person to go be a fan of another team because they have a negative opinion they don't agree with.

[nando714]

Cardinals apparently walk on water too

[Pucknut22]

Read about it here.

 

Cameron nails it here:

 

"The Angels needed a third baseman, I guess, but they traded a good player for a worse player who costs more. Anaheim keeps spinning their wheels, while the Cardinals keep marching on towards sustained excellence. Some things really do stay the same."

 

Its almost embarrassing. I'd say that the Angels are on their way to becoming a joke of a franchise, but the thing is the last four years have been terrible so we're already there. This trade just confirms it. I was hoping that we'd see a shift in gears this off-season, but it looks like more Dipoto being Dipoto.

You know what that means right? The Angels are going to win the division because the last 2 years people were all excited about the team and now according to you we are a joke of a franchise which means we will win. Look maybe you don't know much about Freese except for his stat line this year but he is a upgrade at 3rd.  The one thing I like is unlike most Angels he works the count.  Look at the success of Calhoun and Schuck both players who work counts.  We have to many first ball swingers Hamilton, Aybar, Kendrick, Trumbo, Jimenez, etc.. Now we have Trout, Calhoun, Ianetta, and now Freese.  Don Baylor will also help because the last two hitting coaches we had were free swingers when they played. Baylor will teach patience and he will be respected by the players.  Look for our team OBP going up.

[AngelsLakersFan]

You know what that means right? The Angels are going to win the division because the last 2 years people were all excited about the team and now according to you we are a joke of a franchise which means we will win. Look maybe you don't know much about Freese except for his stat line this year but he is a upgrade at 3rd.  The one thing I like is unlike most Angels he works the count.  Look at the success of Calhoun and Schuck both players who work counts.  We have to many first ball swingers Hamilton, Aybar, Kendrick, Trumbo, Jimenez, etc.. Now we have Trout, Calhoun, Ianetta, and now Freese.  Don Baylor will also help because the last two hitting coaches we had were free swingers when they played. Baylor will teach patience and he will be respected by the players.  Look for our team OBP going up.

 

Don't hold your breath...

[Docwaukee]

when the halos make a trade and everyone hates it, it turns out shitty.

 

when the halos make a trade and everyone likes it, it turns out shitty. 

 

collect underpants

 

profit!!

[Mudville]

The problem with the analysis of this trade is that it is compararing the potential of one player to the career stats of another.