Rays

[Angel_in_Texas]

After numerous conversations with player agents and other teams, Rays executive VP Andrew Friedman headed home from the GM Meetings with a better sense of potential moves, writes Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. The Rays are looking for a first baseman, catcher, and one or two late-inning relievers. Friedman isn't sure if their next move is a trade or signing, but he "would be surprised" if nothing happened between now and the winter meetings on December 8th.

Would a package with Trumbo and Ianetta/Conger be a good place to start to land Price? Who else do you think it would take?

[gotbeer]

One or two late inning relievers, and cash to cover Trumbo's salary.

[Scott34]

Can we stop with the Price thing?

[Angel_in_Texas]

Do you think the Angels could make something work? Is it worth it with our BP issues? We could trade Aybar for Lynn and a bull pen arm maybe and lesson the blow. Thoughts?

[Angel_in_Texas]

My bad. Just read it on MLBtraderumors.

[gotbeer]

No we cannot make something work for Price.  Tampa Bay will want prospects that have huge upsides that they can control for many years, and pay league minimums for.

[Stradling]

Angel in Texas, I would love to get Price, I just don't see us having the pieces to get him. We don't have the arms in the pen or in the rotation to actually land the guy. Now if they would accept a deal that involved Conger and Trumbo for Price then yes I would do it, I just can't see it happening.

[Angel_in_Texas]

I don't see that happening either. I thought I read somewhere they weren't looking for prospects but guys with service time. I know that goes completely against what they have always done.

[ettin]

Angel in Texas, I would love to get Price, I just don't see us having the pieces to get him. We don't have the arms in the pen or in the rotation to actually land the guy. Now if they would accept a deal that involved Conger and Trumbo for Price then yes I would do it, I just can't see it happening.

 

I would like to point out that Price will be making a little over $13 million this year in arbitration and probably close to $18 million next year. Clearly he has positive value but it may not be as gigantic as it seems.

 

If the Rays were willing to aborb the extra salary Kendrick and Trumbo would be enough to get Price for instance (just an example), in my humble opinion.

Edited November 16, 2013 by ettin

[Stradling]

I hope you are right ettin. That being said there are plenty of teams that would be willing to pay 2 years and $31 million for David Price and give up the talent to get him.

[Troll Daddy]

I don't see that happening either. I thought I read somewhere they weren't looking for prospects but guys with service time. I know that goes completely against what they have always done.

 

You read correct ... the Rays need to fill some holes in their starting lineup with MLB ready players. Trumbo fills a big need for them and is still under club control. Dipoto needs to figure out the rest of the pieces and get it done!

 

I thinks it's possible and I believe the Rays feel comfortable trading with us.

[ettin]

I hope you are right ettin. That being said there are plenty of teams that would be willing to pay 2 years and $31 million for David Price and give up the talent to get him.

 

It really depends on the Rays to be honest. There is new money coming in this season to all teams. If they think they can absorb another $13 million this season and if they really are looking for established MLB players we do fit as a good trade partner. If they are looking for long term controllable prospects we won't match up. I think it's the former but I'm not sure it fits our goals of getting young, controllable pitching. Don't get me wrong I like David Price but it is only 2 years and we'd be giving up 2 MLB players under control from 2-3 years in return.

 

Getting Price would only help us in the short term.

[Stradling]

Price would help us as long as we keep him. I get what you are saying, I just hope they are looking for quality affordable major leaguers. Like you said, if they are we match up pretty well with them, if not then we need to target someone else.

[Scott34]

So if we trade Trumbo and Kendrick (and probably Lindsey + another prospect or two) for Price, how do we fill the other 2 holes in our rotation and 1-2 holes in the bullpen?

[Stradling]

My guess is if he costs us four players like that we won't make the deal. But to answer your question we would probably either trade Peter to get an arm or we would spend money.

[SigBaby]

Trumbo, Ianetta, Kohn + cash for Odorozzi and S-Rod?

 

If not, I'd really like to get Sean Rodriguez back. I always liked him and I think he's better than the utility role the Rays have him in now. 

Edited November 16, 2013 by SigBaby

[405z06]

Jesus, of all of the teams in baseball, there is literally no one less likely to get Price than the Angles. I mean, they could buy him when/if he reaches FA.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

I thinks it's possible and I believe the Rays feel comfortable trading with us.

 

Finding a team to dump Scott Kazmir on will develop such comfort.

[Troll Daddy]

It really depends on the Rays to be honest. There is new money coming in this season to all teams. If they think they can absorb another $13 million this season and if they really are looking for established MLB players we do fit as a good trade partner. If they are looking for long term controllable prospects we won't match up. I think it's the former but I'm not sure it fits our goals of getting young, controllable pitching. Don't get me wrong I like David Price but it is only 2 years and we'd be giving up 2 MLB players under control from 2-3 years in return.

Getting Price would only help us in the short term.

They will be losing $13M in salary with the departure of Price and Loney. There is no doubt the Rays are looking for ML ready players to compete in a tough division. First base remains a hole right now for them.

There aren't many teams that can offer a Trumbo type player that is still under club control. I'm just not sure we have all the pieces to make it work. That's were Dipoto earns his money.

Trumbo and Longiria at the corners would be pretty awesome for the Rays.

Btw Two years of Price is better than two years without him.

Edited November 16, 2013 by Troll Daddy

[Mark68]

I'm beginning to think Troll Daddy is trolling us with his misspelling and bad grammar.

[Docwaukee]

The rays and Friedman seem very unlikely to be enamored by trumbos power. Last year they got more value from James loney than the halos did trumbo. Some would argue that's not true, but the rays likely wouldn't. They are well versed in finding value that doesn't cost them money or players so for them to give up a premium rotation arm for a guy who most here would agree can potentially be replaced by a well rounded unproven up and comer is unlikely at best. If we see it, they sure as shit do as well.

[Carlos]

Getting Price would only help us in the short term.

Two words: Zack Greinke

[Angel_in_Texas]

Zach was half a year, Price is for two.

[Splint7438]

Zack was much more interested in the money than any thing else. I am a little surprised more pitchers aren't wanting to pitch in anaheim. Pitchers park and great SoCal weather.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Zack was much more interested in the money than any thing else. I am a little surprised more pitchers aren't wanting to pitch in anaheim. Pitchers park and great SoCal weather.

plus there's not a lot of pressure. If you suck, its not like there's some young prospect coming up to take your job.