And the award for Angels Defensive player of the year goes to...

[greginpsca]

Shuck is the guy who was pulled several times late in the game, for defensive purposes with Colin Cowgil replacing him.

[2112]

Funny, I think I posted at one point last year that Shuck needed to be sent down because of his defense.

[Sully151]

This is just a stepping stone toward his ROY award.

[Mudville]

This is hilarious. I would have picked Shuck or #5 as the worst defensive player for the Angels this year.

Kendrick or Trout were our two best defensive players.

 

Wait a minute, aren't you the guy that keeps pounding on the table with his shoe how important advanced metrics are for judging players and then say Trout with a -0.9 dWAR was better defensively than Shuck who posted a -0.6 dWAR. Of the three outfielders that logged the most innings the ranking by dWAR is Shuck, Trout, Hamilton.

 

Kendrick and Aybar were the same in terms of dWAR with a shockingly poor 0.1 dWAR. For middle infielders on a team that supposedly stresses defense that is abysmal. Of the regular infielders it is a tie for worst with Trumbo and Callaspo at -0.8.

 

By far, though, the Angels best defender was Peter Bourjos but his playing time was cut short due to injury.

[YouthofToday]

"Advanced" stats that require math skills folks learned after the 2nd grade are very important.

I have never said scouting observations are not important -- they are crucial.

There are other defensive metrics than what baseball-reference uses.

Edited November 8, 2013 by YouthofToday

[2002_halos_II]

YouthofToday, on 08 Nov 2013 - 01:59 AM, said:

This is hilarious. I would have picked Shuck or #5 as the worst defensive player for the Angels this year.

Kendrick or Trout were our two best defensive players.

 

Off the top of my head... Harris, Iannetta, Trumbo, Nelson were worse?

Add Calhoun

 

 

 

Congrats Shuck!

[Brent Maguire]

Trout was better than his defensive stats indicated, IMO. The first poor month defensively didn't help but he still got to tons of baseballs that very few guys could get to.

Shuck was downright terrible the first part of the season. He got better but those few defensive gems definitely helped his case out here. He had a surprisingly good arm too.

[Hollyw00d]

dust off that fireplace mantle, mothershucker!   you got some hardware on the way

[Docwaukee]

the award is a painting of a picture of vernon wells presented by Derek Jeter. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

dust off that fireplace mantle, mothershucker! you got some hardware on the way

rhat sounds like the ending of one of the bud light real men of genius commercials.

[YouthofToday]

the award is a painting of a picture of vernon wells presented by Derek Jeter.

You forgot the CERA King

[AZMike]

Wait a minute, aren't you the guy that keeps pounding on the table with his shoe how important advanced metrics are for judging players and then say Trout with a -0.9 dWAR was better defensively than Shuck who posted a -0.6 dWAR. Of the three outfielders that logged the most innings the ranking by dWAR is Shuck, Trout, Hamilton.

 

Kendrick and Aybar were the same in terms of dWAR with a shockingly poor 0.1 dWAR. For middle infielders on a team that supposedly stresses defense that is abysmal. Of the regular infielders it is a tie for worst with Trumbo and Callaspo at -0.8.

 

By far, though, the Angels best defender was Peter Bourjos but his playing time was cut short due to injury.

 

according to dWAR, the Angels best defensive player this season was Hank Conger 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Shuck is the guy who was pulled several times late in the game, for defensive purposes with Colin Cowgil replacing him.

 

Which helped to keep his fielding percentage high enough for him to win this prestigious award. It was all part of a very clever strategy.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

the award is a painting of a picture of vernon wells presented by Derek Jeter. 

 

In an Angels uniform, signed "Vernon Wells, IPHOF".

 

(Infield Popup Hall of Fame, for those confused by the acronym)

[2002_halos_II]

Which helped to keep his fielding percentage high enough for him to win this prestigious award. It was all part of a very clever strategy.

 

 

 

greginpsca, on 08 Nov 2013 - 06:00 AM, said:

 

Shuck is the guy who was pulled several times late in the game, for defensive purposes with Colin Cowgil replacing him.

 

MS strategy

[Docwaukee]

In other news, Albert Pujols just won the 'Lotrimin best halos hitter with plantar fasciitis award'. 

[YouthofToday]

The organization should stop giving this award out and save themselves the embarrassment of showing how utterly terrible they are at properly gauging value. Did Reagins select the 2013 winner?!?!

[jshep]

I don't think it's something the organization gives out.

 

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/ana/angels-jb-shuck-recognized-for-defensive-work?ymd=20131107&content_id=63760364&vkey=news_ana

 

Wilson began the awards last season and said through a press release that winners "are determined by using a formula that balances scouting information, sabermetric analysis and basic fielding statistics."

[Hollyw00d]

Apparently the formula they used to determine this one was jack + coke