The Marlins are looking at Mark Trumbo

[Docwaukee]

I think Trumbo has decent value and I'd be inclined to keep him if not for Calhoun.  I think Kole can actually provide better production, but there are still orgs that put value on presence and being able to hit in the middle of the order.  Granted, I wouldn't want Trumbo in the middle of our order full time, but I could see how other teams would recognize that he's capable of being there. 

 

I am not a huge middlebrooks fan.  I hope boston trades him and moves bogarts to 3b and then we can trade them Aybar for Henry Owens and a couple other players.  Pass on Freese as well. 

 

I also thought Bradley would play CF for Boston next year.  No?

[greginpsca]

Scott, guys that hit 35 HR and drive in 100 RBI don't grow on trees. I think you're too focused on BA/OBP here. Trumbo is still young and has some room for improvement.

Especially when he is mostly hitting 5th or 6th in the lineup.

[FabulousFabregas]

Trumbo for Mathis and prospects.

[ettin]

It's funny how undervalued he is. He isn't going to fetch you a top of the line prospect, but he also isn't going to bring back a bucket of balls like some of you think.

 

Here is the deal with Trumbo: He's an approximate 2.2-2.3 WAR player over the next three years of his control. He will make about $4.7 million in 2014, probably close to $9 million in 2015, and somewhere around $13 million in 2016, so about $27 million or so. When he hits free agency there is a good chance he will get a Qualifying Offer which is also worth a compensatory draft pick.

 

Add all of this up and I truly believe that Trumbo is worth one top prospect. Now some teams may not want to part with one top prospect for Mark but I think there are teams that would do it.

 

I do believe Trumbo can bring in at least one quality starting pitching prospect and a secondary, lower-tier type player in trade.

[Brent Maguire]

That fact that he was an All Star is irrelevant.

Exactly. Bryan Lahair was an all star in 2012 and was in Japan this past year. I doubt teams really look at All Star game appearances.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Home Runs by itself is a poor statistic to evaluate a player.  However, it is not irrelevant.

 

Trumbo was a former All Star who produces power.  And all he has to do to become an "elite" player is get two more walks a month (12 for the season).  I think there will be some teams willing to gamble on Trumbo that he can improve his walks by 2 a month.

You sound like a big fan of Reagins. 

[Season Over]

If you believe Jim Bowden, the Angels are interested in Middlebrooks and David Freese. 

 

We should get Freese just to piss off Ranger fans.

[YouthofToday]

Bowden has a poor track record with his "scoops".

[Brent Maguire]

We should get Freese just to piss off Ranger fans.

Freese would be a nice stopgap for a year or 2. Could probably put up a 110 wRC+ and play good enough 3rd base to be way more valuable than Romine, Jimenez or Green would be there. 

[Mark68]

It's funny how undervalued he is. He isn't going to fetch you a top of the line prospect, but he also isn't going to bring back a bucket of balls like some of you think.

How about Jose Fernandez AND a bucket of balls?

[Angel Oracle]

Scott, guys that hit 35 HR and drive in 100 RBI don't grow on trees. I think you're too focused on BA/OBP here. Trumbo is still young and has some room for improvement.

True, but as each season goes by and he gets closer to age 30 (28 in January), that possibility decreases further.

Sure Chris Davis did well in his age 27 season, and sure that Trumbo and Davis are similar high power/high K guys.

But, and this is the important but, Davis didn't disappear for 2 months each season like Trumbo does.

[Angel Oracle]

If you believe Jim Bowden, the Angels are interested in Middlebrooks and David Freese.

Freese just strikes me as one of those guys who may have achieved everything he's already going to. Middlebrooks would be a nice target for 3B.

[xboom28x]

One would think after all of the piss poor trades we have made recently, that just ONCE a lopsided trade would favor us.

[Blarg]

True, but as each season goes by and he gets closer to age 30 (28 in January), that possibility decreases further.

Sure Chris Davis did well in his age 27 season, and sure that Trumbo and Davis are similar high power/high K guys.

But, and this is the important but, Davis didn't disappear for 2 months each season like Trumbo does.

 

In July Davis hit .211 with a .294 obp, in September .216 with a .304 obp.

In 2012 Davis grouped June and July together and hit about .215 with a .270 obp.

In 2011 Davis .154 in March/April then .179 in July and .250 in August with a .631 ops

in 2010 Davis hit .188 in April, .189 in July and .211 in Sept. The Rangers didn't play him the other three months.

[xboom28x]

So Davis put up average Trumbo numbers last season when he "disappeared?" Good to know.

[Ohtaniland]

Trading Trumbo would be the best thing that ever happened to him. After his 2011 RoY-2 season he was tossed aside like Woody when Buzz Lightyear showed up on the scene.

Trumbo has played 3rd, 1st, RF, LF and DH since Pujols was signed so his confidence has to be rattled. He's officially the Angels bastard child. I hope he rakes wherever he goes.

[fan_since79]

Scott, guys that hit 35 HR and drive in 100 RBI don't grow on trees. I think you're too focused on BA/OBP here. Trumbo is still young and has some room for improvement.

 

Imagine what he could do if he didn't disappear every year for two months.

[Spirit]

Trading Trumbo would be the best thing that ever happened to him. After his 2011 RoY-2 season he was tossed aside like Woody when Buzz Lightyear showed up on the scene.

Trumbo has played 3rd, 1st, RF, LF and DH since Pujols was signed so his confidence has to be rattled. He's officially the Angels bastard child. I hope he rakes wherever he goes.

 

Yup.  If he goes somewhere else I guarantee he'll come back to destroy us. 

[Sully151]

I would really like to see what Don Baylor can do with Trumbo. I am not ready to give up a guy that hits 30+ homeruns and drives in 100+. Especially since we don't know how well Pujols will come back, both as a hitter and a First Baseman, and Hamilton is a coin flip as well.

 

I have to believe his prolonged slumps are more mental than physical and hopefully Baylor will help.

[nando714]

I wont miss Slumpo

[stormngt]

You sound like a big fan of Reagins. 

 

Your just as bad.  You look only at stats that support your position and ignore the others that don't.

 

 

[70runner]

The state of Angel's baseball...trade a young MOTO power hitter with potential and bank on two old MOTO hitters with long term, large contracts and little/no potential.  Those ragging on Trumbo, hope you enjoy watching these old guys collect their huge paychecks.  Oh, yea, and a team managed by another long term, large contract guy.  How's that working out lately?

[SoWhat]

The state of Angel's baseball...trade a young MOTO power hitter with potential and bank on two old MOTO hitters with long term, large contracts and little/no potential. Those ragging on Trumbo, hope you enjoy watching these old guys collect their huge paychecks. Oh, yea, and a team managed by another long term, large contract guy. How's that working out lately?

And how exactly is the pitching staff working out lately?

[jshep]

Who's talking about trading a young middle of the order power hitter?

 

We're talking about trading Mark Trumbo, not whoever that is.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

Your just as bad.  You look only at stats that support your position and ignore the others that don't.

It's "you're". We're still waiting for you to prove your point.