Cardinals could trade Lance Lynn or Shelby Miller this offseason for a new shortstop

[Docwaukee]

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/03/cardinals-could-trade-lance-lynn-or-shelby-miller-this-offseason-for-a-new-shortstop/

 

 

Aybar for Miller. 

Sign Tanaka

Trumbo for a good AA SP, a near ready SS or 3b prospect, and a reliever

Grant Green for a pen arm

Ianetta for a pen arm

Sign a backup catcher

[Scott34]

No way they deal Miller for Aybar. Mozeliak is not stupid.

[FabulousFabregas]

Andrew Romine and Tommy Field for Lance Lynn.  2 SS for 1 P.

[tdawg87]

Do they need a white Jon Jay? We could maybe throw in Bourjos to get Miller.

[SoWhat]

Sign Tanaka

Trade Aybar and Bourjos for Miller

Trade Ianetta for Janssen

Sign Kurt Suzuki

Sign Javier Lopez

If only it was that easy

[tdawg87]

But in all seriousness I would definitely do Aybar straight up for Lynn. Of course that basically takes Kendrick off the table. Even though Lynn has some concerns (his road splits) he is still young and cheap, and I think at worst he would be a good number 4.

[Chuck]

I like how people are experts on what other team's GM's will do or in this case, won't do. 

[Blarg]

In the comments section there are plenty of Cards fans that think Colorado would be happy to part with Tulowitzky for Miller. Fans are pretty myopic GMs.

[Brent Maguire]

I'm still hesitant to trade Aybar or Kendrick at this point.

If Green or Romine are starting, I think we're going to have a big issue.

[tennischmp]

I'm still hesitant to trade Aybar or Kendrick at this point.

If Green or Romine are starting, I think we're going to have a big issue.

We will have even bigger issues if Blanton is pitching every 5 games

[SoWhat]

Yeah, nothing is a bigger issue than pitching. The offense won't take a huge hit by losing Kendrick or Aybar

[nikkachez]

Hello hello all! No way the Cards do Miller for Aybar straight up, but I'd include Bourjos to at least get the Cards attention. I'd be willing to include a prospect if needed, Miller is exactly the type of pitcher the Angels need. Re-sign Vargas and you got a rotation of Weaver, Wilson, Miller, Vargas, and Richards. Maybe sign Clayton Richard to a minor league deal for some more depth with Williams and Shoemaker 

[bloodbrother]

Cards will keep Miller and deal Lynn. Miller is younger and better so it makes little sense to deal him over Lynn

[wopphil]

I think one thing is clear: we have some very good trade chips in Aybar, Kendrick, Ianetta, Bourjos and Trumbo. We ought to be able to get some pitching talent in exchange for some of those guys.

[stormngt]

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/11/03/cardinals-could-trade-lance-lynn-or-shelby-miller-this-offseason-for-a-new-shortstop/

 

 

Aybar for Miller. 

Sign Tanaka

Trumbo for a good AA SP, a near ready SS or 3b prospect, and a reliever

Grant Green for a pen arm

Ianetta for a pen arm

Sign a backup catcher

 

Trumbo, a former All Star, a guy who average 30+ HRs for first three seasons and just arbritration eligible and all you want is a AA SP.  Trumbo should net you at least one major league ready starter.  If your trading him for prospects  you should get at least three for him.

 

Grant Green for a pen arm maybe a good choice.  Ianetta for a pen arm maybe a good choice.

 

Aybar for just Miller?  I don't know.  Was Miller part of the rotation for the Cards lasts year?  His numbers certainly looks like it would be a good trade.  But Aybar should net more than just one pitcher, unless the pitcher is expected to be a top of rotation guy.

 

Oh if we do trade Aybar, who plays short?

[m0nkey]

If you're expecting more than shelby miller for aybar, boy oh boy

[SoWhat]

It seems like the Cards have soured on Jon Jay. I think a Bourjos and Aybar package could be really appealing to STL

[stormngt]

If you're expecting more than shelby miller for aybar, boy oh boy

Actually no, after looking at his numbers more carefully I wouldn't expect more.  

I do think some people here under value Aybar.  His offensive is good for a SS.  He is one of the best defenders at the position who is coming off of a down year.  Aybar is a premium player at a premium position.

[Scott34]

2011-2012 Aybar is super valuable.  The sudden defensive dropoff is worrisome, but I could definitely see some team rolling the dice on him, dealing a solid SP.

[Tyler]

Everything I have been saying this season

[stormngt]

2011-2012 Aybar is super valuable.  The sudden defensive dropoff is worrisome, but I could definitely see some team rolling the dice on him, dealing a solid SP.

If Aybar had two bad defensive seasons in a row, than i would say, yea, it is worrisome.  However, he has been pretty damn consistent with the glove prior to this year.

[tdawg87]

Aybar and Bourjos for Lynn, Rosenthal, and Tyrell Jenkins.

 

DO IT

[Vegas Halo Fan]

In the comments section there are plenty of Cards fans that think Colorado would be happy to part with Tulowitzky for Miller. Fans are pretty myopic GMs.

 

Good to know that this isn't the only fan base who believes that teams are lined up to trade their stars to us for whatever we care to offer.

[Brent Maguire]

If we could get Shelby Miller for Aybar I would be absolutely ecstatic. I'm not sure why they would do that though when they can sign a guy like Stephen Drew and keep Miller.

Lance Lynn for Aybar seems more realistic since Lynn may not have a spot in that rotation next year with Garcia coming back.

[Senor Piva]

Lynn, Tyler Lyons (LH SP), Fernando Salas (RH RP, fallen out of favor), Sam Freeman (hard throwing LH RP), and Ryan Jackson (SS, fallen out of favor with Cards as well) for Aybar and Bourjos.