Why is David Ortiz a beloved juicer?

[Sciosciapath]

Nobody seems to mention him ever.

It's blatantly obvious.

Is it because he's a "good guy"?

[CaliAngel]

Its because he plays for Boston and MLB loves Boston.

[Troll Daddy]

You think a man that big needs juice to hit a HR?  I heard Ruth was a juicer too.

[Chuck]

He's big boned.

[stevestevens]

Nobody seems to mention him ever.

It's blatantly obvious.

Is it because he's a "good guy"?

Obvious? Wasn't he caught?

[Sciosciapath]

You think a man that big needs juice to hit a HR? I heard Ruth was a juicer too.

His stats on the Twins say otherwise

[Lhalo]

You think a man that big needs juice to hit a HR?  I heard Ruth was a juicer too.

I love you Troll Daddy. Some people don't get your sense of humor, but I do.

[CaliAngel]

Seems TD has been a BoSox fan in disguise this whole time, only took a WS appearance from them for it to become pretty obvious.

[jshep]

Playing nice with others, especially the media, pays off. Just like Giambi and Pettitte have.

[Season Over]

If I ever have the misfortune of visiting Fenway, I'm taking a two hour dump and not flushing.

[mancini79]

Because he's hitting the ball. When he has a bad season,he'll become a "washed up juicer".

[mancini79]

If I ever have the misfortune of visiting Fenway, I'm taking a two hour dump and not flushing.

 

Waste of time. It's not like your stench is going to out stench everything Boston.

[CaliAngel]

If I ever have the misfortune of visiting Fenway, I'm taking a two hour dump and not flushing.

You'll fit in well, I think they do that already anyway...

[Lhalo]

If I ever have the misfortune of visiting Fenway, I'm taking a two hour dump and not flushing.

That will give the A's home team advantage next time they play there.

[Hollyw00d]

You think a man that big needs juice to hit a HR?  I heard Ruth was a juicer too.

 

if pabst blue ribbon is considered a juice, sure

[ukyah]

fenway is amazing. ortiz is as well.

[SoWhat]

That will give the A's home team advantage next time they play there.

Lmaooo POTY

[JAHV76]

He's one of the only big names still in the series so it's all about the ratings.

[Angelsjunky]

Is there actual proof that he took steroids?

Is there actual proof that he continues to take steroids?

(Not to mention, do we know how steroids actually impact performance?)

 

The Twins argument is utterly bogus, in my opinion. Ortiz was considered a bit of a sleeper while he was a Twin - someone the stathead community was expecting to break out at some point. His performance level jumped in 2003 when he went to Boston, but its hardly unheard of for things to click at age 27, and it isn't like he went from a shmuck to a great player overnight. Check out his OPS by year, from his first semi-full season in 2000 to probably his best year in 2007:

 

2000 (24, MIN): 101

2001 (25, MIN): 107

2002 (26, MIN): 120

2003 (27, BOS): 144

2004 (28, BOS): 145

2005 (29, BOS): 158

2006 (30, BOS): 161

2007 (31, BOS): 171

 

That's a pretty clear trajectory of improvement. Obviously the biggest jump is 2002 to 2003, but it isn't a red flag or anything.

This isn't to say that Ortiz wasn't (or isn't) juicing, just that too much is made of the difference in his Minnesota and Boston stats.

[sneaky_flute]

Ortiz pretty much admitted to juicing before drug testing was implemented. Same thing with Manny Ramirez. It was ridiculous hearing that Red Sox players were complaining about Peralta being allowed to play in the postseason when they have one of the most famous juicers on their own team.

[VariousCrap]

Has there every been any proof or hard evidence he juiced?

[sneaky_flute]

I got the details wrong. He tested positive in 2003 and still denies taking anything.

[Splint7438]

He did some interviews that he admitted he was on the list of players from the anonymous testing. He later did an interview in which he said the union would rather he didn't talk about the list. Since then he has denied using. I remember seeing the clips years ago. He recently had a couple of down years and it looked like he was done with the sox. But miraculously he "found" his stroke again. I truly believe he used back the. And is using to this day. No evidence, just a hunch. Plus he has zero class when he flips the bat after a homer. And MLB loves Ortiz and the sox. Remember Ortiz going nuts and breaking The water cooler in the visitors dugout earlier this year. No fine. No suspension. Favoritism pure and simple.

[Splint7438]

Let's not forget that George Mitchell of the Mitchell report was a part owner of the redfux when he did his report.

[Troll Daddy]

I guess those PED's stayed in his system for ten years and counting.