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Tanaka is gonna cost a fortune


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This. They definitely have the Kershaw extension coming up, perhaps a Hanley Ramirez one too.

If they win Tanaka it makes you wonder how much money the other 29 ownership groups are pocketing...

 

You have to take into account their TV deal.   According to this site, Angels are second in TV deal money per year.  And yet the Dodgers are double the Angels.  

 

To put it in comparison, the Angels make 10x more than the Cardinals.

 

And like the Yankees, at least the Dodgers are spending the money on the field, instead of pocketing the money like the Marlins.

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http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/11/tanaka-likely-to-cost-more-than-darvish.html#disqus_thread

 

Tanaka Likely To Cost More Than Darvish
By Steve Adams [November 1 at 3:10pm CST]

While a great deal of uncertainty surrounds Japanese right-hander Masahiro Tanaka, the agents and executives polled by Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports all agreed on one thing -- Tanaka will surpass the posting fee and contract of Yu Darvish and become the most expensive Japenese player ever to be posted.

The Rangers won the bidding for Darvish (and subsequently signed him to a six-year deal) by submitting a $51.7MM bid that was more than $20MM more than the second-highest bid, according to Passan. However, one high-ranking NL exec told Passan that he thinks the posting fee alone could reach $100MM, and most of the others to whom Passan spoke predicted something in the vicinity of $75MM.

Major League Baseball and Nippon Professional Baseball are still trying to agree on alterations to the posting system, which will delay the process a bit. There have been several rumored changes, including the possibility that the player would get to select one team from the three highest bidders and negotiate solely with that club. Passan reports that one proposed alternative would find a midpoint between the top two bids, and the highest-bidding team would then pay that amount to the NPB team as a posting fee. Such a system would help MLB to achieve its goal of getting more money to the players, though NPB's ultimate goal is to receive more money for losing its best players.

Tanaka does not currently have an agent, and Passan notes that his team has kept him isolated from those who have made efforts to recruit him. Some speculate that he already has an agreement with an agent but doesn't want to make an announcement until the conclusion of the Japan Series. Part of the reason that Tanaka's price tag is expected to soar so high is that he will not cost a draft pick to sign, nor will his posting fee count against the luxury tax threshold of $189MM.

Tanaka's numbers are breathtaking, as he's pitched to a perfect 24-0 record with a 1.27 ERA for the Rakuten Golden Eagles this season between the regular season and the postseason. Tanaka turns 25 today and is set to make his final start of the season tomorrow in a potentially Japan Series-clinching game, Passan points out. Tanaka has a lifetime 2.30 ERA with a 1,238-to-275 K/BB ratio in 1,315 career innings.

Despite those gaudy numbers, many believe that he doesn't have Darvish's ceiling and isn't an MLB-caliber ace, though a report from Sportsnet's Ben Nicholson-Smith earlier today cited multiple unnamed executives who believed Tanaka could be an ace at this level.

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wow. even 100mil combined for the posting and contract was bordering on crazy. If those numbers are real, they should pass.

but singing pujols to 250 mil and hamilton to 120 isn't?.

I don't care if the angels pay 200 million for the posting fee. It wont count towards the luxary tax or cost a pick. Plus he's only 25.

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It's time to stop messing around.  He's basically the only starting pitcher worth pursuing.  The rest are a bunch of chumps or Blanton clones.  Bringing in some random high 3 to low 4 ERA guy will not make this team a contender.  We need an ace who can help us go toe-to-toe with these teams with Super-rotations.  Tanaka is the only guy who qualifies as someone who could be an ace.  If we don't get him and grab a guy like Garza, it'll be 2013 all over again. 

 

Now, as far as the issue of money, if Tanaka's the ace that many experts project him to be, then it won't really matter that he cost $125 million.  Then, it becomes money well spent and you can live with that.  If Pujols and Hamilton were producing around their career norms, no one would be complaining.  It's when you spend $15 million to pick up a guy like Blanton for 2 years, that's what we should be complaining about and that's the kind of spending this team needs to avoid. 

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I don't like this top 3 teams, and the player choses one.  It assures that the Doggies or Yanks will get any Japanese player they want, at a discount.  Because, sorry to say, if the choice is between those two teams and any other team maybe besides Seattle, they will chose those two.  If they are going to tweak the system, they should just make it an open bidding process.  With the highest bidder getting the player.  

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I've seen both of them pitch in Japan, but Darvish definitely has the better stuff.

Tanaka's splitter is absolutely filthy, but his other pitches don't match up.

100M+ is a little over board.

 

We said the same thing last year about giving Yu $107 million in commitments, and Greinke $147 million, that it was a little over board.  And look where we are at now.  

 

The only way we are going to get better is to spend.  And if we are not going to spend, then we will become the Clippers.  No matter how good you become, it's only temporary and you will still be in the shadow of the Lakers.

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