Reality check time for Arte....

[Ohtaniland]

If the AL West Champion $60M Oakland A's and our crosstown rival Los Angeles Dodgers both make it to the WS Arte is going to fire everybody.

[Taylor]

LOL no.

[Angel Oracle]

Uribe, 5 years/$50 million and a lost 1st round pick

Only Angry Arte

[mancini79]

Arte is already pissed regardless of what the Dodgers or A's do.

[James]

Really reaching here. I will guarantee that the outcome of the playoffs will have no bearing on how the Angels handle the offseason nor should it. 

[Lhalo]

If the Dogs make the WS it will have to sting Arte a least a little bit.

[Ohtaniland]

Arte is already pissed regardless of what the Dodgers or A's do.

This is different. Not only is he losing to the Moneyballers he's losing his battle to win the LA market which is something he thought Pujols would help give him while the Dodgers were failing under the McCourts.

[YouthofToday]

If the AL West Champion $60M Oakland A's and our crosstown rival Los Angeles Dodgers both make it to the WS Arte is going to fire everybody.

I don't know about firing everybody but I strongly suspect this is quite possibly the worst outcome for Arte on who makes the World Series.

I know the organization, in the "walks are a false stat" era, hated Moneyball and refused to see it. No slight to Billy.

[Lifetime]

And you continue to trump out that tired canard. 

[HaloFan85]

This is different. Not only is he losing to the Moneyballers he's losing lost his battle to win the LA market which is something he thought Pujols would help give him while the Dodgers were failing under the McCourts.

Fixed.

[Mark68]

Ummm....no.

 

Arte needs to concentrate on this team, and this team only, and while he's at it, let the baseball people make the baseball decisions.

 

Don't worry about what other teams do, except to learn what does and does not work.

[Brandon]

I'm pretty sure Artes more worried about fixing this team than what others are doing.

[Angel Oracle]

And you continue to trump out that tired canard.

And you continue to have to point it out.

[Lifetime]

And you continue to have to point it out.

Wrong. I haven't commented on it in months yet he's posted it a couple dozen times in that time period. 

[yk9001]

If the Dodgers win the World Series, Arte might rename his team "the Dodgers."

[Stradling]

Wrong. I haven't commented on it in months yet he's posted it a couple dozen times a day.

[Michifan]

Come on, that's like saying Cuban gets pissed when the Spurs win a title. Oh, wait. 

[James]

He was never trying to win the LA market, he knew that wasnt possible. He is trying to expand the fan base outside of OC. Not just in LA but nation wide. He has had some success at this as I live in LA County and continually see Angels gear as I have when traveling. The fans think this is a Dodgers vs. Angels battle when in reality that isn't the case. 

[Angel Oracle]

What James said, I simply don't like the Raviners and look at the Halos being the L.A. Angels in two ways. 

One, like James said, expanding beyond just O.C. 

Two, getting back to the team's original roots in 1961 without playing in L.A. itself

Edited October 8, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[mtangelsfan]

Are we sure we want Arte to be reactionary when it comes to this team anyway?  Not that I think he will be, but it seems like the last couple times he's tried to make things happen with his heart they haven't worked out well.

[Ohtaniland]

He was never trying to win the LA market, he knew that wasnt possible. He is trying to expand the fan base outside of OC. Not just in LA but nation wide. He has had some success at this as I live in LA County and continually see Angels gear as I have when traveling. The fans think this is a Dodgers vs. Angels battle when in reality that isn't the case.

Lol if you don't think that he didn't want to stick it to the Dodgers. There was a window of opportunity during the last couple of years of the McCourts ownership but Arte's baseball people duped him both on and off the field. Our westcoast Yankees venture has fallen short.

Edited October 8, 2013 by Hamiltown

[T.G.]

I thought knee jerk reactions were reserved for the fan base.

[AngelsFaninGA]

I would prefer if Arte didn't care at all, or if he somehow magically forgot he owned a baseball team, because then our baseball people might finally be able to get us out of this mess. 

[Troll Daddy]

I would prefer if Arte didn't care at all, or if he somehow magically forgot he owned a baseball team, because then our baseball people might finally be able to get us out of this mess.

I'm don't believe the Angels are anywhere near being a mess. They were pick by many to win the west and more.

If the pitching is improved upon, which I think it will be, then our playoff chances are looking real good.

I still believe they need another Ace to compete in the playoffs.

Edited October 8, 2013 by Troll Daddy

[James]

Lol if you don't think that he didn't want to stick it to the Dodgers. There was a window of opportunity during the last couple of years of the McCourts ownership but Arte's baseball people duped him both on and off the field. Our westcoast Yankees venture has fallen short.

So you honestly think he thought he could turn Dodger fans into Angels fans? You are way off base here. His goal is to expand the fan base and to attract the casual Southern California sports fan to the Angels. he wasn't trying to win over an entire city, the Dodgers have been here far to long to accomplish that. The fans made this a battle over LA, not the ownership groups. The rebranding of the team was to create a larger target audience that could connect to the identity of the franchise. He didn't do so to try and "over take" the market. Of course the McCourt era helped him out with this for awhile but you are mistaken on his ultimate agenda.