Scott Downs can't catch a break

[HaloCory22]

Bill Shaikin â€@BillShaikin14m

Scott Downs, traded from #Angels to #Braves for first playoff spot in 13-year career, did not make NLDS roster.

 

[AngelsLakersFan]

And yet people here seemed to see him as a valuable trading chip...

[halobob]

Wow brutal for Downs.

[gotbeer]

If he had better than a 1.93 WHIP with Atlanta, maybe he would have made the cut.  

[nando714]

Walden?

[gotbeer]

Dang, Downs' September was brutal.  10 games.  3.0 IP.  13 hits.  

[tdawg87]

Thanks, Jerry!

[ettin]

Butcher is obviously the....oh wait.

 

It could be latent lag. Happens to me all the time.

[Angel Oracle]

Yep, I guess the Downs for Rasmus trade was fair, poor performance on either side.

[jshep]

If he had better than a 1.93 WHIP with Atlanta, maybe he would have made the cut.  

 

Ya, between that and the Braves shifting Alex Wood to the pen for the postseason, it's not terribly surprising.

 

Unfortunate for Scott though.

[CaliAngel]

Awesome. So we held on to a guy for years who couldn't even make the cut for a NL playoff spot.

 

Who the hell is in charge of deciding which guys play for our team???

[tdawg87]

Awesome. So we held on to a guy for years who couldn't even make the cut for a NL playoff spot.

 

Who the hell is in charge of deciding which guys play for our team???

 

Downs was great for the Angels.

[ten ocho recon scout]

Awesome. So we held on to a guy for years who couldn't even make the cut for a NL playoff spot.

Who the hell is in charge of deciding which guys play for our team???

Its not like downs was bad here. And its not like we were bursting at the seams with guys who could replace him in our pen...

[jshep]

Downs was great for the Angels.

 

Ya, I'm not seeing what one has to do with the other here.

[Angel Oracle]

For his first 1.5 seasons here, Downs was basically a lefty Uehara for us.

Then it all came unraveled for him after the 2012 ASB.

Just like Speier!   What is it about acquiring Toronto pitchers, and seeing them do great for 1.5 seasons, and then quickly and totally unravel? 

Edited October 2, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[tdawg87]

For his first 1.5 seasons here, Downs was basically a lefty Uehara for us.

Then it all came unraveled for him after the 2012 ASB.

Just like Speier!   What is it about acquiring Toronto pitchers, and seeing them do great for 1.5 seasons, and then quickly and totally unravel? 

 

Downs was very good this year. He was the Angels' best reliever before being traded.

[jshep]

For his first 1.5 seasons here, Downs was basically a lefty Uehara for us.

Then it all came unraveled for him after the 2012 ASB.

Just like Speier!

 

I'm not seeing the similarities.

 

Speier had one great half for us, one mediocre one, followed by 2 seasons/108 innings of 5+ ERA relief.

 

Downs was pretty consistently great before and after the 2nd half of 2012.

Edited October 2, 2013 by jshep

[Angel Oracle]

Good point on 2013, although he became a true lefty specialist this season, unlike his first two seasons here.

Hence, the drop off in innings/appearance

Also, his WHIP was pretty high (1.26) for a sub 2.00 ERA here in 2013.   How many inherited runners did he allow to score compared to 2011-2012?

Edited October 2, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[DMVol]

Downs had a pretty good run as an Angel (better than most of our relief pitcher signings) but he was not, contrary to the arguments of some here, a valuable chip at the trade deadline...Rasmus didn't impress and there was a reason for that---he's not very good, at least not at this point...

[CaliAngel]

I seem to remember a lot of inherited runners crossing the plate when Downs would come in, but maybe I'm wrong.

 

His numbers look good if you look at the stats, but again, if he was not even considered for the NL Postseason, I think that says more of what other teams think of him than what the Angels did.

[saangels]

For his first 1.5 seasons here, Downs was basically a lefty Uehara for us.

Then it all came unraveled for him after the 2012 ASB.

Just like Speier!   What is it about acquiring Toronto pitchers, and seeing them do great for 1.5 seasons, and then quickly and totally unravel? 

Wow, I forgot all about Justin Speier; but yeah, that's a great comparison, AO.  

[AngelsLakersFan]

Downs was very good this year. He was the Angels' best reliever before being traded.

 

It was a fluke, and Scioscia managing his talent well (no fukin way!)

[tdawg87]

It was a fluke, and Scioscia managing his talent well (no fukin way!)

 

That doesn't make it not a good season. It's only a "fluke" if he had sucked every year prior.

[2002_halos_II]

Wow that's too bad. I liked Downs.

[ettin]

That doesn't make it not a good season. It's only a "fluke" if he had sucked every year prior.

 

Careful tdawg, this could quickly turn into a Bourjos thread.