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According to Jon Heyman . . .


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. . .Trout was the 3rd most valuable player in the AL, behind Cabrera and JOSH DONALDSON.

 

3. Mike Trout, OF, AngelsSure, he may well be the best all-around player in the league. But he didn't play a meaningful game after May.

 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/23927810/wins-over-war-cabrera-mccutchen-get-mvp-nods-here-max-cy

 

 

Not surprising given Heyman's dislike for the Halos.  Definitely seems like he's pushing for page views with the Josh Donaldson thing.

 

 

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(Note: the reason his big September last year counted so much is the Tigers needed it, whereas they had things pretty well wrapped up by September this year even if they only wound up winning the division by a game.)

 

So this was part of Heyman's bit on Cabrera.

 

Basically, September performance matters more  until it stops supporting his argument.

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If Trout is the best player in the game (which he is), then he's the most valuable player. Penalizing him because the players around him weren't good enough just shows what a farce the MVP award really is. The MVP award doesn't mean anything if the best player doesn't win it.

 

The award is "most valuable player" not "most outstanding player".  Therefore, your value to the team as they compete and win must be taken into evaluation.  That is why players who play on teams who win or make the playoffs get an edge.  Take Trout off the Angels and the still do not make the playoffs.  Can you take Cabrera off the Tigers and still have them make the playoffs?

 

I don't necessarily agree with this logic, but I understand it.

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The award is "most valuable player" not "most outstanding player". Therefore, your value to the team as they compete and win must be taken into evaluation. That is why players who play on teams who win or make the playoffs get an edge. Take Trout off the Angels and the still do not make the playoffs. Can you take Cabrera off the Tigers and still have them make the playoffs?

I don't necessarily agree with this logic, but I understand it.

There's no logic to agree with.

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"Didn't play a meaningful game after May...."

 

Probably ought to ask for that Cy Young back from King Felix if that is the critera....

Seriously. 

 

Hate this quote so much. One could argue that Cabrera didn't play a meaningful game considering they have been a lock for the playoffs for quite a while. 

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Actually for the WAR nutswingers, Donaldson could be argued as better than Cabrera.  Cabrera's WAR 7.2, Donaldson's 8.0.  And in this case it is not apples to oranges, like comparing a 3B with an OF, since both players play 3B.  

 

One plays third and one is a third baseman.

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If Trout is the best player in the game (which he is), then he's the most valuable player. Penalizing him because the players around him weren't good enough just shows what a farce the MVP award really is. The MVP award doesn't mean anything if the best player doesn't win it.

 

There's no right/perfect answer because (especially this year)..everything can just be argued against.

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The award is "most valuable player" not "most outstanding player".  Therefore, your value to the team as they compete and win must be taken into evaluation.  That is why players who play on teams who win or make the playoffs get an edge.  Take Trout off the Angels and the still do not make the playoffs.  Can you take Cabrera off the Tigers and still have them make the playoffs?

 

I don't necessarily agree with this logic, but I understand it.

 

If this logic were true than every player above replacement level on the Tigers / Indians / Rangers / Rays, in that order, should be listed in order of their contribution.

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