The Mike Scioscia Manager Status Update Thread

[Angel Oracle]

Okay then to those saying Scioscia isn't the problem, what has he done the past 4 seasons that warrants him staying? What has Butcher done the past 4 seasons that warrants him staying?

Edited September 30, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[gurn67]

Okay then to those saying Scioscia isn't the problem, what has he done the past 4 seasons that warrants him staying? What has Butcher done the past 4 seasons that warrants him staying?

I was trying to think of something funny or sarcastic to say, but, after watching this slow death march of a season, I got nothing.

[Kevin]

I'll give Sosh the benefit of the doubt for 2010 and 2011. Those teams just weren't good (although I'm sure he made some piss poor decisions during those years too).

Not so much 2012 and 2013. When I see a quote like that from him, it just shows how delusional he is. Especially where the team was coming off a five error game. Without throwing a tantrum or going on a rant, just call it like it is. They played like crap so just say it or don't say anything at all. If he's going to sugarcoat a horrible series and season, it sends a strong message that these types of things are acceptable. That's how I perceive it at least.

[Kevin]

The Sosh quote I'm referring to was in the "thanks for being the Rangers doormat, Angels." Thought it was this thread.

[Tank]

I think firing Butcher is a necessary move. I have no suggestions to make on who to bring in to replace him.

[Brian Ilten]

How about looking at the last 2 months rather than one series?

How about looking at the one series in the last two months that actually counted for something (the last one)?

[YouthofToday]

I think managers are tremendously overrated. The owner needs to pick an organization philosophy and line up a management team behind that.

I don't think he did this with Dipoto/Scioscia.

It's no secret I favor the more progressive approach to the game espoused by Maddon and others.

Edited September 30, 2013 by YouthofToday

[Mudville]

i will not support this team if scioscia is still manager next season

So you will be posting "Fire Washington!" on Rangerswin.com next season?

[YouthofToday]

Scioscia >>> Washington.

[Mudville]

I'll give Sosh the benefit of the doubt for 2010 and 2011. Those teams just weren't good (although I'm sure he made some piss poor decisions during those years too).

Not so much 2012 and 2013. When I see a quote like that from him, it just shows how delusional he is. Especially where the team was coming off a five error game. Without throwing a tantrum or going on a rant, just call it like it is. They played like crap so just say it or don't say anything at all. If he's going to sugarcoat a horrible series and season, it sends a strong message that these types of things are acceptable. That's how I perceive it at least.

The Rangers, in a do or die series that they played their starters not a bunch of AAAA players, committed 4 errors that game.

[Lhalo]

Scioscia >>> Washington.

That's like saying candy>>>>>>dog poo.

[Mudville]

How about looking at the one series in the last two months that actually counted for something (the last one)?

What did that series mean to the Angels, some payback to the Rangers for losing the division by the end of the offseason and ruining an already weak pitching staff? Playing for pride is really rediculous when that went down the drain by mid season. If anything the Angels hosed the Rangers by forcing them to play another game in hopes of playing a one game playoff.

[Stradling]

I'm just curious how Blanton figured out that he can be effective again because of shoulder positioning when he only pitched in one game this month. Bullpens don't mean squat.

[stormngt]

How about looking at the whole season Lol

 

Yes, lets look at the whole season

 

No pitching depth and Weaver and Vargas go down!

 

Having to throw out Hanson and Blanton which was guaranteed losses 40% of the time.  IN addition we had to have a worse pitcher thrown out there for another two months.

 

Having your power bat 1b play on one foot.

 

Yes, let's look at the season as a whole.  

 

You guys keep saying this team under achieved.  I disagree, this was a bad team from the start and I think Sosh did a hello of a job getting them close to 500

[stormngt]

Okay then to those saying Scioscia isn't the problem, what has he done the past 4 seasons that warrants him staying? What has Butcher done the past 4 seasons that warrants him staying?

 

Being forced to throw out Bobby Abreu, Torri Hunter, and Juan Rivera as you middle of line up power and still playing almost 500 ball.  in 2010 Sosh should have been manager of the year.

 

Having Trumbo as you no 1 offensive threat and Bourjos you no 2 offensive threat in 2011 and still being over 500.  Sosh once again should have been manager of the year. in 2011

 

Having the team competitive and not quitting in 2012 he did a good job.  I do blame him for the start in 2012 where I think he did a poor job.

 

This year....just being forced to pitch Blanton and Hanson 40% of the time he should get a raise.

[stormngt]

I think MS is best manager for the team . I hope he's fired or quits just so I don't have to hear the constant moaning/crying/fire Scioscia threads around here next season.

 

I'll give Sosh the benefit of the doubt for 2010 and 2011. Those teams just weren't good (although I'm sure he made some piss poor decisions during those years too).

Not so much 2012 and 2013. When I see a quote like that from him, it just shows how delusional he is. Especially where the team was coming off a five error game. Without throwing a tantrum or going on a rant, just call it like it is. They played like crap so just say it or don't say anything at all. If he's going to sugarcoat a horrible series and season, it sends a strong message that these types of things are acceptable. That's how I perceive it at least.

 

How the hell was 2013 a GOOD TEAM?????

[nate]

Gardenhire is back with the twins.  Cubs Sveum fired.

 

Too bad, I would have liked Gardenhire here if Scioscia gets canned.

[tennischmp]

This was not supposed to be a Fire Scioscia thread....

[Blarg]

Gardenhire is back with the twins.  Cubs Sveum fired.

 

Too bad, I would have liked Gardenhire here if Scioscia gets canned.

 

So you want to go from the longest tenured manager to the second longest tenured manager with a worse win/loss record and a whole 3 wins in 6 playoff appearances, being swept 3 times and never getting out of the first round. His last three seasons the Twins are 66,66 and 63 wins. This is your choice?

[nate]

So you want to go from the longest tenured manager to the second longest tenured manager with a worse win/loss record and a whole 3 wins in 6 playoff appearances, being swept 3 times and never getting out of the first round. His last three seasons the Twins are 66,66 and 63 wins. This is your choice?

 

I have said from the beginning that I think Scioscia is a good manager but they need a new voice.  I think the same is with the Twins... along with a whole new roster there.

[Blarg]

The Twins seem to think Gardies voice is just fine.

[jshep]

Good for them?

[Blarg]

Not really.

[WallyWorld]

this just in - Darin Erstad was spotted on the 5.

[Jay]

I favor the more progressive approach to the game espoused by Maddon and others.

 

I have no idea what this means.