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Cuban right-hander Miguel Alfredo Gonzalez free to sign with MLB team


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With a cap on international signings for young kids, a so-so free agent market this winter and not a lot of depth for trades, might not be a bad idea to look at this guy, even if we overspend....hope for the best....we need to look outside the box to try and remake our roster.....

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Arte Moreno is willing to throw money at Pujols, Hamilton, and Wells, and so if he doesn't make a SERIOUS attempt to sign a MUCH needed starting pitcher, he is indeed foolish.

Oh, and to address the statement made on here that "You pay a player based on his previous body of work"; well, Pujols, Hamilton, and Wells haven't even been in the same time zone production wise since they came here.

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Since this cat is more than 23 and played at least 3 years in Cuba his purchase fee does not apply to the new international cap.

He could land more than $50 million as such.

That is specifically why I said "because of the cap on international signings for young kids"....you are limited on younger, first time signing guys...but not on this guy....which is why we might want to think about him....

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Arte Moreno is willing to throw money at Pujols, Hamilton, and Wells, and so if he doesn't make a SERIOUS attempt to sign a MUCH needed starting pitcher, he is indeed foolish.

Oh, and to address the statement made on here that "You pay a player based on his previous body of work"; well, Pujols, Hamilton, and Wells haven't even been in the same time zone production wise since they came here.

LOL AO, I have always disagreed in large part with that moronic statement. That proclamation should be rewritten just to show how ludicrous it actually is. Something along the lines of, "You pay a player for what he has done for another team and not for what he has, or will do for your own." That is exactly what our organization has done. They have rewarded and paid Pujols for his outstanding contributions to the Cardinals (and whose cap he will don if he were to make the HOF), Hamilton for carrying the Rangers (a rival, not to mention), Wells for his Blue Jays days (poetic, no?), and GMJ for his one good season (again with a division rival).....   Forget high ceiling kids that come with relatively club friendly contracts that allow for building a solid organization with a good foundation. You don't get the thrill of rewarding a guy for his contributions to rival teams.

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http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/15/cuban-right-hander-miguel-alfredo-gonzalez-free-to-sign-with-mlb-team/

It's too bad Arte couldn't have purchased Cespedes, Puig and Gonzalez with half of the money he spent on the Albert Pujols.

 

 

So Arte should have signed players that went to three different teams.  I guess that means 26 other teams also suck, since they didn't sign all three of them.

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So Arte should have signed players that went to three different teams.  I guess that means 26 other teams also suck, since they didn't sign all three of them.

Well, it's always a crapshoot....some of the Cuban/Japanese/International guys have been a bust....but we've done pretty well when we've jumped in--Kendrys being the biggest one we've signed...but Shiggy was a pretty good bullpen guy too....so give our current situation and the limitations on improving the roster through free agency or trade, I might think about signing this guy...if my scouts think he's good, I might overpay....upside but obviously more risk than an established big league guy....

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Let's face it, Arte is cheap.......again.

How is he cheap? Hes spent over $400 million on free agents in the past 2 offseasons. Is it really his fault they haven't "lived up to the contract" yet? He finally put up the big bucks after years of people bitching that he doesn't spend money on Teixeira, Lackey, Crawford, etc.

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How is he cheap? Hes spent over $400 million on free agents in the past 2 offseasons. Is it really his fault they haven't "lived up to the contract" yet? He finally put up the big bucks after years of people bitching that he doesn't spend money on Teixeira, Lackey, Crawford, etc.

How is he cheap? Hes spent over $400 million on free agents in the past 2 offseasons. Is it really his fault they haven't "lived up to the contract" yet? He finally put up the big bucks after years of people bitching that he doesn't spend money on Teixeira, Lackey, Crawford, etc.

I was being sarcastic. Arte is not cheap, he's just being duped out of his money by his baseball people.

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LOL AO, I have always disagreed in large part with that moronic statement. That proclamation should be rewritten just to show how ludicrous it actually is. Something along the lines of, "You pay a player for what he has done for another team and not for what he has, or will do for your own." That is exactly what our organization has done. They have rewarded and paid Pujols for his outstanding contributions to the Cardinals (and whose cap he will don if he were to make the HOF), Hamilton for carrying the Rangers (a rival, not to mention), Wells for his Blue Jays days (poetic, no?), and GMJ for his one good season (again with a division rival).....   Forget high ceiling kids that come with relatively club friendly contracts that allow for building a solid organization with a good foundation. You don't get the thrill of rewarding a guy for his contributions to rival teams.

 

Vernon did have an outstanding season in 2003, and GMJ did make that tremendous catch at the wall, the most expensive catch in Angels history.

 

Come to think of it, those three WS home runs from Pujols were also the most expensive dingers in Angels history.

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Shiggy is still the ONLY Far East player we've signed who's pitched/played up here, and that was SIXTEEN years ago!

WTF is Arte Moreno's aversion to the Far East? 

 

Matsui and Takahashi came from other MLB teams.   I'm talking about actually signing someone directly from the Far East who isn't at least age 36. 

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I've said it before, if the Angels are going to make big, risky signings, this is the kind of big, risky signing they should be making. You don't find 26-year old impact arms on the free agent market ever. Considering how little starting pitcher they have in the system, it seems like a no-brainer to pursue Gonzalez so Dipoto can stop filling the back of the rotation with the Joe Blantons of the world. The whole point of being a big salary team is being able to make these kind of gambles, really hope JeDi goes for it.

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Arte Moreno is willing to throw money at Pujols, Hamilton, and Wells, and so if he doesn't make a SERIOUS attempt to sign a MUCH needed starting pitcher, he is indeed foolish.

Oh, and to address the statement made on here that "You pay a player based on his previous body of work"; well, Pujols, Hamilton, and Wells haven't even been in the same time zone production wise since they came here.

That's because they're only allowed to produce in the Central and Eastern time zones. Little-known baseball rule.

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Some of it wasn't 20/20.

 

Santana always had a strong season after a bad one.   2012 was bad, do the math.   They could have then traded him in late July to a contender for a solid prospect.    One that will likely be better than Sisk will ever be.

Pujols started his decline in 2011.   Hamilton started his decline in 2012 with the 2 horrid months and last week disapperance.

Iannetta was always mediocre behind the plate, while Chatwood showed decent composure for a 21 year-old here. 

 

Worst of all, we trade THREE really solid lefty pitching prospects since August 2009 (Torres, Corbin, and Skaggs).

What org trades all of their lefty pitching prospects away in a one year period?

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