Angels select Sam Bachman, DFA Reyes Moronta

[Stradling]

5 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Ingram is the logical one to take Loup’s spot, being a lefty.

Yep. 

[mmc]

 

[Stradling]

4 hours ago, Second Base said:

Also, I feel like this needs to be said otherwise people will be disappointed...

Sam Bachman DOES NOT THROW 100. 

He doesn't even throw in the upper 90's, really. Can he reach back and hit 100? Yes. But the more I watch him, the more I've seen him fluctuate. Sometimes, he's throwing a darting two seamer at 93-94. Sometimes, he's reaching back and firing up in the zone at 98-99, but the ball isn't moving. 

At his most effective, he's throwing what I would call a "sinking fastball" at 96, low on the zone and it's generating a bunch of broken bats, weak grounders and two hoppers at the SS/2B. And even then, it's his change up and slider that make it so effective. 

But if you're expecting 100 every pitch in every outing, you'll be disappointed. 

But isn’t it logical to assume a couple mile per hour increase working out of the pen as a one or two inning guy?  

[Second Base]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

But isn’t it logical to assume a couple mile per hour increase working out of the pen as a one or two inning guy?  

Difficult to say. He was already gassed around 40-50 pitches, which seems to suggest that he was likely pumping harder than your typical starter.

Just a guess, but his first few appearances I think he's going to come in absolutely electric, hitting his limit in terms of velocity before settling in around 97. 

[ArkyAngelsFan]

8 hours ago, REDneck said:

Fat chance it's Moronta...I bet it's Loup going!

I see what you did there....lol

~ArkyAngelsFan~

[HeavenlyHalos]

8 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Have you actually watched him?  He's tended to cruise for three innings then lose gas completely and implode.

Only a few innings where he looked good but they were all the 1st time through the order, hence my question...

[Inside Pitch]

5 hours ago, HeavenlyHalos said:

Only a few innings where he looked good but they were all the 1st time through the order, hence my question...

You got a good view of him then.  He's just not been able to retain his velocity for very long.

[arch stanton]

If he gets important outs at the ML level he's worth a first round pick

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

20 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

No Joyce we have Loup as lefty

we have Loup as a blown save

[Chuck]

 

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[Inside Pitch]

36 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

 

Considering the goofy stuff we are hearing about the sticky balls this is actually a pretty smart move by Perry and company.  It's little crap like this that ends up paying off.   So nice to hear this sort of stuff is happening.

[Chuck]

12 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Considering the goofy stuff we are hearing about the sticky balls this is actually a pretty smart move by Perry and company.  It's little crap like this that ends up paying off.   So nice to hear this sort of stuff is happening.

I'd like to see them move Joyce, Ingram, Torres and maybe Soriano up to AAA so they can get work in using normal baseballs tbh. 

Yeah it's the PCL and Salt Lake is a hitters paradise, but let them get their in-game work in with regular baseballs FFS. 

What a dumbass decision to do this in Double-A. 

[Inside Pitch]

50 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

I'd like to see them move Joyce, Ingram, Torres and maybe Soriano up to AAA so they can get work in using normal baseballs tbh. 

Yeah it's the PCL and Salt Lake is a hitters paradise, but let them get their in-game work in with regular baseballs FFS. 

What a dumbass decision to do this in Double-A. 

The park in SLC has been neutral for HRs for each of the last two seasons.  The league itself is still run happy, but SLC has been playing much closer to true than at any time in it's history and the predictive stuff we have been talking about will help spot where it's the park and not the player.  At this point the only thing about having guys pitch in AAA is accepting that the traditional stuff like ERA and the sort will be skewed and the reality that breaking balls may be less effective.

		Runs		Home Runs		BABIP		Overall
Team	Org	PF	Mult	PF	Mult	PF	Mult	TRC	Pctile
Albuquerque	COL	120	1.101	122	1.111	105	1.026	6.52	97%
El Paso	SD	123	1.114	122	1.112	111	1.057	6.59	99%
Las Vegas	OAK	122	1.108	153	1.263	107	1.036	6.56	98%
Oklahoma City	LAD	95	0.973	87	0.933	98	0.990	5.76	86%
Reno	ARI	106	1.028	87	0.934	103	1.013	6.09	91%
Round Rock	TEX	88	0.940	95	0.973	94	0.969	5.56	76%
Sacramento	SF	76	0.878	75	0.875	89	0.943	5.20	58%
Salt Lake	LAA	112	1.058	100	1.001	110	1.052	6.26	95%
Sugar Land	HOU	79	0.893	74	0.871	90	0.950	5.29	63%
Tacoma	SEA	89	0.944	96	0.978	92	0.961	5.59	79%

[HanfordGuy]

Welcome to the Show, Sam Bachman!!!

[Angel Oracle]

7 hours ago, arch stanton said:

If he gets important outs at the ML level he's worth a first round pick

Considering the number of top 10 overall picks over the years in MLB that flame out, concur with this.

96-98 heat with movement and nasty slider and change = 8th/9th inning guy potential.

K-Rod was a starter in the minors until ST 2002 with little success.   And then burst onto the MLB scene late in 2002 to stay, with the heat and nasty slider.

Edited May 26, 2023 by Angel Oracle

[Tank]

@Jeff Fletcher when a player gets their first MLB hit, the ball is taken out of play and given to them. Do the Angels do anything equivalent for a pitcher when they pitch in a game for the first time?

[Hubs]

While I don't know the 40-man move with Bachman being selected, I doubt it's going to be the release of Loup or Moronta or anyone like that. 

Quijada and Warren are on the 15-day DL, not the 60, and Max Stassi is also not on the 60 day DL, so if they make one of those moves, they can select Bachman.

 

[mmc]

7 minutes ago, Hubs said:

While I don't know the 40-man move with Bachman being selected, I doubt it's going to be the release of Loup or Moronta or anyone like that. 

Quijada and Warren are on the 15-day DL, not the 60, and Max Stassi is also not on the 60 day DL, so if they make one of those moves, they can select Bachman.

 

Quijada has been on the 60 but I think it's more likely we move Warren than cut anyone

[Jeff Fletcher]

50 minutes ago, Tank said:

@Jeff Fletcher when a player gets their first MLB hit, the ball is taken out of play and given to them. Do the Angels do anything equivalent for a pitcher when they pitch in a game for the first time?

I have never anyone take a ball out of play for a pitcher’s debut. They should get something, though. 

[Hubs]

3 minutes ago, mmc said:

Quijada has been on the 60 but I think it's more likely we move Warren than cut anyone

I thought so to, but on MLB.com he is listed as 15-IL.

[Hubs]

4 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

I have never anyone take a ball out of play for a pitcher’s debut. They should get something, though. 

They probably just save the ball from their first appearance they are holding at the end of the inning. 

 

[mmc]

1 minute ago, Hubs said:

I thought so to, but on MLB.com he is listed as 15-IL.

Error on their part

 

[Hubs]

28 minutes ago, mmc said:

Error on their part

 

Ahh ok.