2023 26-Man Roster (Updated 2/16)

[Angel Oracle]

On 11/11/2022 at 6:44 PM, Trendon said:

I don’t see them spending money on Tyler Anderson when they have more important needs and a limited amount of payroll to work with.

Especially since Anderson is likely a one year wonder.

How dud it work for the Halos when bringing in one for 2000 (Bottenfield)?

[Angelsjunky]

6 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Especially since Anderson is likely a one year wonder.

How dud it work for the Halos when bringing in one for 2000 (Bottenfield)?

Well, pretty much that.

[mmc]

 

[BTH]

On 11/8/2022 at 2:55 PM, Angelsjunky said:

As with last year, I'll be updating this as the offseason commences (can a moderator sticky this?)

To start, I'm including everyone on the 40-man roster, plus most guys that could conceivably either make the 26-man roster on Opening Day and/or start in the high minors and be called up within the first month or two. Obviously some of these guys are dubious and many won't see the major league team. But to start, best to take a big umbrella approach. Anyone I'm missing?

 

So now:

Add: Anderson

Remove: Toussaint, Zastryzny, Walters, Molina, Palomaki, and Fitch.

[BTH]

Another note: Daniel is on the 40-man roster, so you can put him in bold.

[mmc]

Add Urshela, remove Diaz

[mmc]

Add Renfroe, remove Junk, Pegeuro, Seminaris

[greginpsca]

Have any of these recent DFA's been claimed? Or have any been sin c e outrighted or taken free agency?

[Blarg]

Junk, Pegeuro, Seminaris are trades.

[mmc]

1 hour ago, greginpsca said:

Have any of these recent DFA's been claimed? Or have any been sin c e outrighted or taken free agency?

All been outrighted and elected free agency/non-tendered

[mmc]

 

[Angelsjunky]

Updated with Renfroe and Wallach, minus Junk, Peguero, and Seminaris.

[BTH]

For comparison, here’s a look at last year’s graphic by @Angelsjunky:

 

Compared to 2023’s:

Edited November 23, 2022 by Trendon

[Angelsjunky]

I updated it again with an upgraded chart - adding in a different view on the roster. This is more debatable, as I'm making judgement calls, but will also change it as more info becomes clear.

[Angelsjunky]

13 minutes ago, Trendon said:

For comparison, here’s a look at last year’s graphic by @Angelsjunky:

 

Compared to 2023’s:

 

 

[Angels 1961]

7 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I updated it again with an upgraded chart - adding in a different view on the roster. This is more debatable, as I'm making judgement calls, but will also change it as more info becomes clear.

TY for update

[Pancake Bear]

36 minutes ago, Trendon said:

For comparison, here’s a look at last year’s graphic by @Angelsjunky:

 

Compared to 2023’s:

Two observations: On paper, at this point in the off-season, the pen looks much more shallow than last off-season. But basically everything else looks significantly deeper. And the pen is probably the easiest area to cobble together decent replacements at low cost. 

[Warfarin]

22 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

Two observations: On paper, at this point in the off-season, the pen looks much more shallow than last off-season. But basically everything else looks significantly deeper. And the pen is probably the easiest area to cobble together decent replacements at low cost. 

I think there's pretty promising reliever depth in AAA, but they aren't ready yet.  So I think for the remainder of the offseason, Perry will have to try to find a few undervalued relievers that can help serve as the bridge between the start of the season and the end.  Joyce, Murphy, Ingram, Torres - a number of guys who look promising, but they can't be considered options just yet.

In an ideal world, I'd like to see a few of those relievers (Weiss, Ortega, Wantz) start off in AAA.  The core relievers, for now, I see as Herget, Tepera, Loup, Quijada.  Barria can be added to that, mainly because he's out of options.  Davidson probably as well, although I see him as a DFA option too.

So for now - I'd say there are 5 core guys, which means we can potentially add about 3 more.

[Angelsjunky]

20 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

I think there's pretty promising reliever depth in AAA, but they aren't ready yet.  So I think for the remainder of the offseason, Perry will have to try to find a few undervalued relievers that can help serve as the bridge between the start of the season and the end.  Joyce, Murphy, Ingram, Torres - a number of guys who look promising, but they can't be considered options just yet.

In an ideal world, I'd like to see a few of those relievers (Weiss, Ortega, Wantz) start off in AAA.  The core relievers, for now, I see as Herget, Tepera, Loup, Quijada.  Barria can be added to that, mainly because he's out of options.  Davidson probably as well, although I see him as a DFA option too.

So for now - I'd say there are 5 core guys, which means we can potentially add about 3 more.

This is well considered, though I think because of that minor league depth (both relievers and starters) and the secondary (non core) major league guys you mention, the "potentially add 3" will become "actually add 1 or 2" with 2 being more likely than 1.

[Pancake Bear]

33 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

This is well considered, though I think because of that minor league depth (both relievers and starters) and the secondary (non core) major league guys you mention, the "potentially add 3" will become "actually add 1 or 2" with 2 being more likely than 1.

2 waiver wire types, or $3-5m signings/trades?

[Wisconsin27]

Agree with War/AJ/PB.  I see Barria as an important piece given his success as an inexpensive long-man with no options.  To avoid repeating the "depth deficiencies" we experienced in the IF/OF last year, I'd like to see us take a similar approach to the BP by adding at least two more MLB options.  We'd be better suited to withstand the inevitable BP injuries.

[Warfarin]

1 hour ago, Angelsjunky said:

This is well considered, though I think because of that minor league depth (both relievers and starters) and the secondary (non core) major league guys you mention, the "potentially add 3" will become "actually add 1 or 2" with 2 being more likely than 1.

 

29 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

2 waiver wire types, or $3-5m signings/trades?

Sure, I can see that.  I think 2 could be added - maybe deals similar to what we saw Bradley sign last offseason.  There are tons of reliever options on the market in general, so it likely won't be hard to find some intriguing options who can serve in this capacity and help bridge the gap.

So to sum up, I think we could see a starting pen of:  Herget, Tepera, Loup, Quijada, Barria, then 2 FA signings, and the last spot can be whoever earns it amongst the optionable relievers we have in spring training.  The rest will serve as AAA depth, which we know will be needed throughout the course of a long season.

[Angelsjunky]

40 minutes ago, Pancake Bear said:

2 waiver wire types, or $3-5m signings/trades?

No idea; my guess is probably the latter. Or a solid $5-6M reliever, and a lottery pick.

[Angelsjunky]

9 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

 

Sure, I can see that.  I think 2 could be added - maybe deals similar to what we saw Bradley sign last offseason.  There are tons of reliever options on the market in general, so it likely won't be hard to find some intriguing options who can serve in this capacity and help bridge the gap.

So to sum up, I think we could see a starting pen of:  Herget, Tepera, Loup, Quijada, Barria, then 2 FA signings, and the last spot can be whoever earns it amongst the optionable relievers we have in spring training.  The rest will serve as AAA depth, which we know will be needed throughout the course of a long season.

My guess is that after last years signings, Minasian is putting his team to work to try to find hidden gems. I can see him playing it cool with relievers and waiting for the market to settle, then grabbing a couple bargains.

 

[mmc]

Webb and Devenski next 2 to add