Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[mmc]

Just a random thought but honestly even if the Angels get an outfield injury, is there a chance they'd be better off just relying on guys like Rengifo, Drury, Fletcher, and Walsh filling in, and calling up Velazquez than calling up Adell/Moniak?

[BTH]

4 minutes ago, mmc said:

Just a random thought but honestly even if the Angels get an outfield injury, is there a chance they'd be better off just relying on guys like Rengifo, Drury, Fletcher, and Walsh filling in, and calling up Velazquez than calling up Adell/Moniak?

It depends on how the players on the major league roster are doing and the defense of infielders in the outfield.

If Phillips’ production is similar to 2020-2021 levels, he’d be a fine option to start in the OF vs. RHP.

But the bigger question would be the defense of infielders in the outfield. If one or more of them are adequate in the outfield, then it may make more sense to put Rengifo, Urshela, Drury, or Walsh in the outfield.

[Inside Pitch]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

I think he said the same thing a year ago.

He wasn't wrong.  They just needed to add even more.

[Angel Oracle]

50 minutes ago, Trendon said:

Or their markets are so robust that they’re waiting to see if a team adds an extra year or a few million more AAV. Or just sifting through offers.

Heyman said the other day that Chafin’s market was heating up.

Please tell me the Halos aren’t going to heavily rely on Loup and Tepera again in the late innings?

[Second Base]

This is why the Marlins are losers. When they have something of value, they trade it away, and the return is always laughably disappointing. 

Christian Yelich landed then Brinson, Diaz, Harrison avd Yamamoto. In other words, they got a collection of nothing for a future MVP. 

They traded Giancarlo Stanton and in return got Starlin Castro, Jose Devers and Jorge Guzman. Castro has been Gio Urshela, basically. Devers is a utility infielder and depth fodder at the moment and Guzman is a AAA reliever. Stanton was coming off an MVP season. 

And now they traded away the most valuable commodity in baseball, good, young consistent, controllable pitching. And in return they got a 1B with bad knees that's piss poor defensively, can't hit for power, nor run. Arraez won a batting title, but it's an empty batting average.  Miami even threw prospects on top of the deal. 

And this is why that organization continues to disappoint. 

[mmc]

 

[Angel Oracle]

16 minutes ago, Second Base said:

This is why the Marlins are losers. When they have something of value, they trade it away, and the return is always laughably disappointing. 

Christian Yelich landed then Brinson, Diaz, Harrison avd Yamamoto. In other words, they got a collection of nothing for a future MVP. 

They traded Giancarlo Stanton and in return got Starlin Castro, Jose Devers and Jorge Guzman. Castro has been Gio Urshela, basically. Devers is a utility infielder and depth fodder at the moment and Guzman is a AAA reliever. Stanton was coming off an MVP season. 

And now they traded away the most valuable commodity in baseball, good, young consistent, controllable pitching. And in return they got a 1B with bad knees that's piss poor defensively, can't hit for power, nor run. Arraez won a batting title, but it's an empty batting average.  Miami even threw prospects on top of the deal. 

And this is why that organization continues to disappoint. 

And the gold standard for ripoffs, the Cabrera trade

[drpiranha]

45 minutes ago, mmc said:

Just a random thought but honestly even if the Angels get an outfield injury, is there a chance they'd be better off just relying on guys like Rengifo, Drury, Fletcher, and Walsh filling in, and calling up Velazquez than calling up Adell/Moniak?

I would think Phillips is the 1st option. The 2nd option would be Adell?Moniak hitting the cover off the ball in AAA. The 3rd option is shifting an infielder to the outfield and I would think the infielder called up with be determined by the performance comparison of Velasquez to Soto.

[ukyah]

On 1/19/2023 at 1:46 PM, Docwaukee said:

That's a big miss from my standpoint.  An easy dump if he sucks.  And if he's good, a huge asset to a good team or a bad one.  

if you're pro aroldis signing, then you have to be pro bauer signing.

[tdawg87]

20 minutes ago, ukyah said:

if you're pro aroldis signing, then you have to be pro bauer signing.

Nah. False equivalency.

[REDneck]

Like to see PM get creative and busy again...He has done well, but still room for improvement.

Chapman would of been alright.

It sounds like Lopez was attainable?

[BTH]

10 minutes ago, REDneck said:

It sounds like Lopez was attainable?

He was attainable if you had a Luis Arraez type player available.

The Angels didn’t, so he wasn’t attainable.

[BTH]

1 hour ago, Angel Oracle said:

Please tell me the Halos aren’t going to heavily rely on Loup and Tepera again in the late innings?

Herget, Quijada, and Estévez are probably higher up on the depth chart than those two, but they are still gonna rely on Loup and Tepera in the late innings throughout the season.

[Ender]

Anyone want a Chris Flexen or a Marco Gonzales? Anyone?

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, ukyah said:

if you're pro aroldis signing, then you have to be pro bauer signing.

nope.  I sure don't.  

[BTH]

1 hour ago, Ender said:

Anyone want a Chris Flexen or a Marco Gonzales? Anyone?

Dipoto’s not gonna make a trade with the Angels, so it’s a pointless discussion.

[ukyah]

2 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

Nah. False equivalency.

i hoestly don't see how you can say that. i'm open to a counter argument.

[ukyah]

1 hour ago, Docwaukee said:

nope.  I sure don't.  

how's it different?

not trying to derail the thread, but i'm interested as how it could be different.

[mmc]

 

[BTH]

29 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

Seems weird that that person is the only one who tweeted that out, especially since Red Sox reporters are at the FanFest and have been tweeting things from it today.

[Second Base]

Chris Sale to the Angels, of course. 

[Blarg]

5 hours ago, Lou said:

Great, now I want a churro.

Looks like we could use an Om Nom Nom emoji. 

[tdawg87]

41 minutes ago, ukyah said:

i hoestly don't see how you can say that. i'm open to a counter argument.

Well first, Chapman doesn't have any bad press. He just skipped a workout and got fined. That's a lot different than actual, legal trouble. Whether you think Bauer actually did anything wrong or not doesn't matter. It's just how it goes. 

Second, and most importantly, he's a completely different asset. He's going to be in the bullpen and immediately throwing 98+. He hasn't missed significant time, like Bauer has. Bauer hasn't pitched in well over a year. Is he going to be ready to take the mound on opening day? What is his contract even going to look like?

Their situations are entirely different.

[BTH]

1 minute ago, tdawg87 said:

Well first, Chapman doesn't have any bad press. He just skipped a workout and got fined.

Google “Aroldis Chapman suspension.”

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Trendon said:

Google “Aroldis Chapman suspension.”

Oh shit.

Well. Ok then. I was wrong.