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Angels All Time Washed Up Veterans Team


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45 minutes ago, oldguy said:

Mike Epstein, Butch Hobson, Vada Pinson, Tony Armas, Bert Campaneris, Leo Cardenas, Tony Conigliaro, Jimmy Piersall

Tony C.’s 1971 season (4 HRs before July retirement) was a shock, after hitting 36 HRs in 1970 for the Red Sox.

I remember watching the 20 inning early July game in Oakland (1-0 loss), where he went something like 0-8 and retired the next day.

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C'mon guys, let's get it right:

1B Cecil Fielder, Eddie Murray

2B Edgardo Alfonso, Ian Kinsler

SS Zack Cozart, 

3B Hubie Brooks, Kelly Gruber

OF Raul Ibanez, Rickey Henderson, Von Hayes, Raul Mondesi, Josh Hamilton, Steve Finley, Tony Armas

DH Dave Parker, Shea Hillenbrand

C Butch Wynegar

SP Mark Gubicza

SP Tim Lincecum

SP Jack McDowell 

SP Ismael Valdez

SP Fernando Valenzuela 

RP Lee Smith (he pitched a whopping 11 innings all season and failed to notch a save)

 

 

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1 minute ago, Crampknees said:

Vaughn injured in his first inning in Anaheim

Nah. The qualifiers should be that if a player has had at least one good season with us or went on to have a better elsewhere they're excluded from the list. 

Washed up means, they crashed and burned with us or went on to continue crashing and burning until their careers ended elsewhere. 

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1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

C'mon guys, let's get it right:

1B Cecil Fielder, Eddie Murray

2B Edgardo Alfonso, Ian Kinsler

SS Zack Cozart, 

3B Hubie Brooks, Kelly Gruber

OF Raul Ibanez, Rickey Henderson, Von Hayes, Raul Mondesi, Josh Hamilton, Steve Finley, Tony Armas

DH Dave Parker, Shea Hillenbrand

C Butch Wynegar

SP Mark Gubicza

SP Tim Lincecum

SP Jack McDowell 

SP Ismael Valdez

SP Fernando Valenzuela 

RP Lee Smith (he pitched a whopping 11 innings all season and failed to notch a save)

 

 

Kinsler had a 2.5 WAR in 90 games and was traded for two relief pitching prospects. People seem to think he sucked when he was here 

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55 minutes ago, happybat4 said:

Kinsler had a 2.5 WAR in 90 games and was traded for two relief pitching prospects. People seem to think he sucked when he was here 

Kinsler had a .239/.304/.406 slash line with the Angels. If you think that’s great, you’re wrong.

The Angels got Ty Buttrey and Williams Jerez in return. Buttrey in 115 games had a 4.30 ERA with the Angels.

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1 minute ago, Chuckster70 said:

Kinsler had a .239/.304/.406 slash line with the Angels. If you think that’s great, you’re wrong.

The Angels got Ty Buttrey and Williams Jerez in return. Buttrey had one good season for the Halos. In 115 games Ty Buttrey had a 4.30 ERA.

I don't think that's great but holy shit I would kill for that production at shortstop.

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1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

C'mon guys, let's get it right:

1B Cecil Fielder, Eddie Murray

2B Edgardo Alfonso, Ian Kinsler

SS Zack Cozart, 

3B Hubie Brooks, Kelly Gruber

OF Raul Ibanez, Rickey Henderson, Von Hayes, Raul Mondesi, Josh Hamilton, Steve Finley, Tony Armas

DH Dave Parker, Shea Hillenbrand

C Butch Wynegar

SP Mark Gubicza

SP Tim Lincecum

SP Jack McDowell 

SP Ismael Valdez

SP Fernando Valenzuela 

RP Lee Smith (he pitched a whopping 11 innings all season and failed to notch a save)

 

 

That was year two for Lee Smith.  The frustrating about year one (1995) is that he was blocking Troy Percival.

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