Donny Baseball

[Second Base]

Mattingly out as Marlins manager. Go for it, Angels. That's a hiring I'd support. 

[Tank]

I’d kick the tires on Mattingly. 

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Tank said:

I’d kick the tires on Mattingly. 

Can't imagine a high-profile manager would take the gig without knowing who the new owner(s) will be.

[Tank]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

Can't imagine a high-profile manager would take the gig without knowing who the new owner(s) will be.

Reasonable.

So you’d keep Nevin? 

[jsnpritchett]

3 minutes ago, Tank said:

Reasonable.

So you’d keep Nevin? 

Eh.  I don't really have a sense of Nevin yet, so I'm ambivalent.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's the manager next season, though, for the reason I mentioned above.  It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to bring in another manager who will likely be gone after next season, assuming the sale doesn't get done quickly.

Edited September 25, 2022 by jsnpritchett

[mmc]

I hate this idea so much I'm glad it let me facepalm it twice

 

[Jay]

7 minutes ago, Tank said:

Reasonable.

So you’d keep Nevin? 

yes

[Tank]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

Eh.  I don't really have a sense of Nevin yet, so I'm ambivalent.  It wouldn't surprise me at all if he's the manager next season, though, for the reason I mentioned above.  It doesn't make a whole lot of season to bring in another manager who will likely be gone after next season, assuming the sale doesn't get done quickly.

Assuming that Minassian sticks around, and if Mattingly has what they’re looking for, I think a deal could be easily enough reached regardless of the ownership situation. But that uncertainty might scare off some candidates, too. I’m okay with Nevin as the fallback option for another year, if necessary. 

[Blarg]

27 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Mattingly out as Marlins manager. Go for it, Angels. That's a hiring I'd support. 

Why? He didn't get along with Friedman and that's why the Dodgers cut ties with him. He has had no success with the Marlins. Donny baseball is only a name these days and not a commodity. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

Can he play first?

[m0nkey]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

Why? He didn't get along with Friedman and that's why the Dodgers cut ties with him. He has had no success with the Marlins. Donny baseball is only a name these days and not a commodity. 

Don Mattingly made the playoffs with the Marlins

[greginpsca]

Isn't Mattingly sort of anti metrics? If so, i doubt Minnie Minasian would have an inkling of interest.

[eligrba]

Does it really matter?

[Docwaukee]

Hell no.  

[Taylor]

I don't care, but based on the fervent disinterest of people more knowledgeable than me, I'll assume it would be a bad decision. 

[cysomeawfulpitcher]

[Angel Oracle]

3 hours ago, m0nkey said:

Don Mattingly made the playoffs with the Marlins

60 game season

[Angels 1961]

With change of ownership coming Angels will not sign a manager for more than 1 year. I see Nevin back in 2023 on a 1-year deal. 

[AngelsMetsWS]

Donnie’s teams seem to underachieve, short season excepted. 

[Docwaukee]

7 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

With change of ownership coming Angels will not sign a manager for more than 1 year. I see Nevin back in 2023 on a 1-year deal. 

Montgomery will take the job.  Minasian will finally get full influence over the roster and put together the team he wants.  Including the coaches.  I'm not implying that means we're gonna start winning all of a sudden.  Just that he'll offer Montgomery the job and they won't lose 90 games or more next year so he'll look good on paper.  It'll be a nice opening salvo for Ray regardless of what new ownership does.  And in a lot of situations, new owners won't gut the front office.  So Minasian essentially has one last chance here.  If the team doesn't show something positive next year, they will move on.  

[m0nkey]

8 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

60 game season

Angels couldn’t do it

[m0nkey]

Also, he was managing the Marlins, not some perennial juggernaut 

[eligrba]

6 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

Montgomery will take the job.  Minasian will finally get full influence over the roster and put together the team he wants.  Including the coaches.  I'm not implying that means we're gonna start winning all of a sudden.  Just that he'll offer Montgomery the job and they won't lose 90 games or more next year so he'll look good on paper.  It'll be a nice opening salvo for Ray regardless of what new ownership does.  And in a lot of situations, new owners won't gut the front office.  So Minasian essentially has one last chance here.  If the team doesn't show something positive next year, they will move on.  

Sounds like Eppler-Ausmus revisited. 

[jsnpritchett]

5 hours ago, m0nkey said:

Also, he was managing the Marlins, not some perennial juggernaut 

They were outscored by 41 runs that year.  Their projected record based on run differential was 26-34-- which is the same record the Angels had in 2020, coincidentally.  They ended up going 31-29, so there was definitely some luck/overachieving involved. 

[Stradling]

7 hours ago, Docwaukee said:

Montgomery will take the job.  Minasian will finally get full influence over the roster and put together the team he wants.  Including the coaches.  I'm not implying that means we're gonna start winning all of a sudden.  Just that he'll offer Montgomery the job and they won't lose 90 games or more next year so he'll look good on paper.  It'll be a nice opening salvo for Ray regardless of what new ownership does.  And in a lot of situations, new owners won't gut the front office.  So Minasian essentially has one last chance here.  If the team doesn't show something positive next year, they will move on.  

This is my assumption as well.