Scioscia on Weaver and Cole

[FabulousFabregas]

From postgame interview.

 

On Weaver: "I don't think his command was as crisp as we've seen it."

 

On Cole: "He was pounding the zone with good stuff."

[Halos of Anaheim]

Scioscia could have just said

 

On Weaver: He was throwing meatballs out there today. Speaking of meatballs...

 

On Cole: He was pounding his catcher with efficiency tonight. Speaking of pounding catchers..wheres Eppy?

[Angelsjunky]

Weaver: sucks

Cole: good

[Stradling]

The lack of respect some of you guys show to players like Weaver is mind boggling. How can you seriously enjoy a game when you have no attachment to players? I'm not ripping on you guys, I just don't understand. Players don't always perform, that is a fact. Pitchers occasionally struggle, especially coming off of injury. But lets go to the worst case scenario with Weaver, and that would be his arm is toast, and he will never be nearly as effective as he was. How do you just rip the guy? It certainly isn't his fault that his arm doesn't do what it once did. I am sure he would rather still be dominant. Sadly, in baseball, this kind of thing happens. But even sadder is that we have fans that will now only see him as an over the hill over paid athlete, if he is indeed past his prime.

[tdawg87]

It's hard to get attached to people I don't know making more money than I will ever see in my life, just by playing a sport.

[halonatic13]

Wasn't it his Left arm that he hurt?  His throwing arm should still be fine.

[Stradling]

It's hard to get attached to people I don't know making more money than I will ever see in my life, just by playing a sport.

So, you're jealous of the money they make? I basically couldn't care less how much money they make, other than the fact that it could prevent the team from signing other players. I have said this before, but I wish no one knew how much each player made.

[Stradling]

Wasn't it his Left arm that he hurt? His throwing arm should still be fine.

Except you still need to log some innings to get your arm strength up. I have no idea if he is done or not. However, I still think he could be effective throwing 87mph. Just not as effective as 89-90.

[tdawg87]

That isn't what I said or implied at all.

[MacNasty]

I would like to see the Angels find some starting pitchers that can throw heat.  It just seems like our staff is forced to nibble at the plate and if the calls aren't going their way they struggle.  

 

Weave is a guy I love, one of my favorite Angels ever.  But I do have to admit his lack of velocity is a big concern.

[Stradling]

Are you like me Tdawg, where you grew up in Anaheim or the surrounding area and couldn't imagine rooting for another baseball team?

[tdawg87]

I am loyal to the team. I have my favorite players, Weaver happens to be one of them (believe it or not). But if it is better for the TEAM to trade him, and move on from him, then I am all for it.

 

As for "disrespect", we disrespect every single person who puts on that uniform every time they strike out, or make an error, or do something dumb. We're reactionary as fans. We will vent and say things like "F U Aybar" when we wouldn't say it in any other context.

[Stradling]

I would like to see the Angels find some starting pitchers that can throw heat. It just seems like our staff is forced to nibble at the plate and if the calls aren't going their way they struggle.

Weave is a guy I love, one of my favorite Angels ever. But I do have to admit his lack of velocity is a big concern.

Sadly, the best arm on the team is Richards, and he is less consistent than anyone else with worse stuff.

[tdawg87]

Are you like me Tdawg, where you grew up in Anaheim or the surrounding area and couldn't imagine rooting for another baseball team?

 

I wish I grew up in Anaheim. My family grew up around there so thats where my fandom comes from.

[Stradling]

I would also consider trading Weaver, but it would have to be to bring in a really talented arm in return.

[tdawg87]

I would also consider trading Weaver, but it would have to be to bring in a really talented arm in return.

 

I think it would be possible. He still has value, it isn't like his struggling has been going on for that long.

 

I don't WANT to trade him, because he gave the team a discount and has given them nothing but great pitching since he has been here. But if it is best for the team in the long run I think it's an option that has to be considered. Teams in contention will always need starting pitching.

[Stradling]

I don't want to trade him, and I know I am probably going to get crucified for saying this, but I think the team can be a playoff team as early as next season. It really takes just a move or two and Hamilton playing like we have all seen the last few years.

[markb]

I'd also prefer not to trade Weaver, but even if we tried, given he took a huge hometown discount to stay in socal and has a full no-trade clause, I imagine he'd block most attempts anyways.  

[Angel Oracle]

I prefer to not trade Weaver as well, over what he did for 6-7 starts. Besides, the Weaver that people are facing now is not nearly as high-valued as he was a year ago.

Give him a chance through the season, and then into 2014.

[DropOfAnaheim]

He threw 3 or 4 pitches at 90 on the radar gun. He will adjust, he is that good. I don't see any more Cy Young years out of him, but we paid CJ the same money to be a 2-3 pitcher. Weaver is a favorite, and I will not bad mouth the man.