Trout WAR update

[YouthofToday]

Trout may retire as the greatest player to have ever walked on to a baseball field in the young history of our planet.

[The God of Runs]

Trout may retire as the greatest player to have ever walked on to a baseball field in the young history of our planet.

 

In a Yankee's uniform?

[Jimmag]

WAR is a clown stat-Bryce Harper

 

[Ray McKigney]

Trout may  will retire as the greatest player to have ever walked on to a baseball field in the young history of our planet.

 

Fixed.

[ScottT]

Mike Trout!

[Lifetime]

Mike Trout is the Most Interesting Baseball Player in the World (MIBPW)

[Angelsjunky]

Trout may retire as the greatest player to have ever walked on to a baseball field in the young history of our planet.

 

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. I'll be very happy if, 20 years from now, we see Trout's name on the top half of this list of the greatest outfielders in major league history (sorted by WAR). Or be among the 20 or so position players in the exclusive 100+ WAR, hopefully joining Albert Pujols (who is at 87.1 now). It is amazing to think that Trout is almost 15% there - and he's not yet 22 years old.

[AZMike]

Here's the AL leaderboard from baseball reference 

 

dWAR listed in a few select cases:

 

1) Machado 4.5

2) Cabrera 4.0 (-0.4 dWAR)

3) Davis 3.6

4) Longoria 3.3

5) Pedroia 3.3

6) Mauer 3.3

7) Donaldson 3.1

8) Trout 3.0 (-1.2 dWAR)

9) Peralta 2.9

10) Hardy 2.7

 

12) Kendrick 2.7

27) Trumbo 1.7

50) Pujols 1.3

56) Bourjos 1.2 (0.1 dWAR)

408) Hamilton -0.4 (0.1 dWAR)

 

According to baseball reference dWAR, Josh Hamilton is the best defensive outfielder on the team and Mike Trout is the third worst defender in the American league.

 

Fangraphs WAR for Trout is 50% higher even though it's supposedly based on the same data. 

 

WAR = BS.

[seenoevil]

Here's the AL leaderboard from baseball reference 

 

dWAR listed in a few select cases:

 

1) Machado 4.5

2) Cabrera 4.0 (-0.4 dWAR)

3) Davis 3.6

4) Longoria 3.3

5) Pedroia 3.3

6) Mauer 3.3

7) Donaldson 3.1

8) Trout 3.0 (-1.2 dWAR)

9) Peralta 2.9

10) Hardy 2.7

 

12) Kendrick 2.7

27) Trumbo 1.7

50) Pujols 1.3

56) Bourjos 1.2 (0.1 dWAR)

408) Hamilton -0.4 (0.1 dWAR)

 

According to baseball reference dWAR, Josh Hamilton is the best defensive outfielder on the team and Mike Trout is the third worst defender in the American league.

 

Fangraphs WAR for Trout is 50% higher even though it's supposedly based on the same data. 

 

WAR = BS.

 

lol how is Trout such a bad defender? I don't understand how this works

[tdawg87]

Here's the AL leaderboard from baseball reference 

 

dWAR listed in a few select cases:

 

1) Machado 4.5

2) Cabrera 4.0 (-0.4 dWAR)

3) Davis 3.6

4) Longoria 3.3

5) Pedroia 3.3

6) Mauer 3.3

7) Donaldson 3.1

8) Trout 3.0 (-1.2 dWAR)

9) Peralta 2.9

10) Hardy 2.7

 

12) Kendrick 2.7

27) Trumbo 1.7

50) Pujols 1.3

56) Bourjos 1.2 (0.1 dWAR)

408) Hamilton -0.4 (0.1 dWAR)

 

According to baseball reference dWAR, Josh Hamilton is the best defensive outfielder on the team and Mike Trout is the third worst defender in the American league.

 

Fangraphs WAR for Trout is 50% higher even though it's supposedly based on the same data. 

 

WAR = BS.

 

Not really. dWAR is absolutely flawed, but WAR in general is still a solid representation of a player's value.

[bloodbrother]

Don't need dWAR to show me that Machado is a damn stud at 3B. We saw plenty of that @ Bal

 

Kendrick, Callaspo and Blanton for Machado/Gausman

[YouthofToday]

Don't need dWAR to show me that Machado is a damn stud at 3B. We saw plenty of that @ Bal

Kendrick, Callaspo and Blanton for Machado/Gausman

We would have to include Quinlan, Izturis or a low A pitching prospect.

[nate]

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/mike-trout-and-the-greatest-age-21-season-of-all-time/

 

 

More Trout pron

 

"As good as Trout was last year, he was that great while only making contact 82% of the time, and those contact issues carried over in April. His contact improved in May without being reflected in his strikeout rate, but in June, he’s hitting everything he swings at and the result is a dramatic drop-off in strikeouts. Basically, Trout is showing signs of dramatic improvement in the the one area you could kind of point to as a deficiency. A strikeout-free version of Mike Trout is essentially the perfect baseball player."

 

He would be Pujols in his prime with more speed and a little less power.

[tdawg87]

And also white

[Bashbrothers]

Here's the AL leaderboard from baseball reference 

 

dWAR listed in a few select cases:

 

1) Machado 4.5

2) Cabrera 4.0 (-0.4 dWAR)

3) Davis 3.6

4) Longoria 3.3

5) Pedroia 3.3

6) Mauer 3.3

7) Donaldson 3.1

8) Trout 3.0 (-1.2 dWAR)

9) Peralta 2.9

10) Hardy 2.7

 

12) Kendrick 2.7

27) Trumbo 1.7

50) Pujols 1.3

56) Bourjos 1.2 (0.1 dWAR)

408) Hamilton -0.4 (0.1 dWAR)

 

According to baseball reference dWAR, Josh Hamilton is the best defensive outfielder on the team and Mike Trout is the third worst defender in the American league.

 

Fangraphs WAR for Trout is 50% higher even though it's supposedly based on the same data. 

 

WAR = BS.

WAR has a .94 correlation to on field results. It's better than the Pythag  records.

[Brent Maguire]

WAR is a great stat. Obviously, the defensive side of advanced stats haven't been fully figure out but it values offense, pitching and base running in a good way.

WAR isn't the only stat to look at but it does a great job of combining the important part of a player's game.

It also shows how superior Trout was last year to Cabrera in less time.

[Bashbrothers]

WAR is a great stat. Obviously, the defensive side of advanced stats haven't been fully figure out but it values offense, pitching and base running in a good way.

WAR isn't the only stat to look at but it does a great job of combining the important part of a player's game.

It also shows how superior Trout was last year to Cabrera in less time.

I like it as a snapshot. If it's close I use other stats.

[Brent Maguire]

I like it as a snapshot. If it's close I use other stats.

Exactly how I approach it.

I like using OPS and looking at park adjusted stats because those tell more of the picture.

So many people are caught up in looking at just batting average and the basic stats without putting the park they play in into consideration.

[Halos of Anaheim]

I hate how Baseball Reference has totally screwed Trout WAR wise this year. -1.2 dWAR..are you kidding me?

[Stradling]

And also white

Which is good for a few more WAR points.

[tdawg87]

Which is good for a few more WAR points.

Whites Above Replacements?

[Stradling]

That has an old school vibe to it.