Angels and Reds have discussed Castillo trade, remain far apart

[T.G.]

I think the Angels and Reds remain "far apart" because Castillo isn't going to be traded.

[Torridd]

1 hour ago, True Grich said:

I think the Angels and Reds remain "far apart" because Castillo isn't going to be traded.

Is he their best pitcher?

[mmc]

Think this is where we end up seriously pivoting to.

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, mmc said:

Think this is where we end up seriously pivoting to.

...and we'll probably end up with Tyler Mahle...

[ettin]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

...and we'll probably end up with Tyler Mahle...

I like Mahle.

[jsnpritchett]

5 minutes ago, ettin said:

I like Mahle.

Yeah, he obviously had a breakout season this year, yet will still be cheaper from a dollar standpoint than Castillo.  I just worry that if the Angels don't sign Stroman, they'll make a panic move and overpay for whatever their next move is.

Edited November 29, 2021 by jsnpritchett

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

Yeah, he obviously had a breakout season this year, yet will still be cheaper from a dollar standpoint than Castillo.  I just worry that if the Angels don't sign Stroman, they'll make a panic move and overpay for whatever their next movie is.

I hope it isn't an Adam Sandler movie.

[Erstad Grit]

22 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I hope it isn't an Adam Sandler movie.

better than the Kevin James UFC movie. I lasted about 12 minutes into that. 

Edited November 29, 2021 by Erstad Grit

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, Erstad Grit said:

better then the Kevin Smith UFC movie. I lasted about 12 minutes into that. 

or

[Erstad Grit]

Just now, jsnpritchett said:

or

Good catch, Kevin James

[jsnpritchett]

4 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Good catch, Kevin James

Random notes: I used to write for Kevin Smith's website and went to see the 2002 Tobey Maguire SPIDER-MAN movie with him and Chris Ryall (comic book writer/editor/publisher) at the Cinerama Dome.  We at lunch at Bossa Nova on Sunset and almost got our cars towed.

That's all I've got...

[Taylor]

44 minutes ago, cals said:

Did that guy just see $40 and a gainfully employee man?

Well said.

[Docwaukee]

On 11/28/2021 at 12:58 PM, ten ocho recon scout said:

Ill say this. And @Dochalo is likely going to throw a shoe at me and call me an idiot, but it "feels" different this year. In that we may actually finally do something drastic.

I know we all have angels winter hot stove ptsd. And the past several years have sucked for sure.

But I think we forget how bad of a corner we were in in the past several years.

@Inside Pitch had a post a few days ago about the 2016 team. Id actually forgotten a few things, like cj wilson and bad ending weaver being on that team. With pujols, wilson and hamilton costing 80 or so million that year for basically zero return, plus no farm, etc etc.

I think the past few years, its been "lock up trout, cant do much more than that". Everything else was wait till alberts gone.

essentially, i think theyre probably to the point where they want SOME sort of value from trout, before its too late. But more importantly, I think Ohtani just forced their hand. (Like trout in 2012)

I wouldnt be surprised if theres a sense of urgency thats one of "ohtani is only staying if we turn it around, quick", or "ohtani isnt staying, better try and win one with him and trout before we totally waste the oppurtunity"

I havent been too excited over the scherzer rumors, but it almost makes a ton of sense. Him and syndegaard arent here long term, but give us our least commitment but best chance to win quickly...

If the goal is to try and win before shohei leaves (or makes the decision to), its not a bad plan at all.

dude I totally agree with you and have been saying that it's my worst fear for this off season.  Where instead of Arte spending on a guy like Ray or Stroman, we're gonna make that drastic trade and move Marsh or Adell for two years of someone.   Then, we'll have that pitching everyone has been pining for even though our pitching wasn't that bad last year.  And then well have a lineup that has Upton, Rengifo and Fletcher with backup of Jose Rojas and Gosselin and Wade and Lorenzen.  And then we'll wonder why the bottom of the lineup is a black hole and we lead the league in runners left in scoring position.  Then a couple times a month Fletcher will slap a double down the line on a pitch at his eyes and people will get all hot and bothered.  

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Dochalo said:

dude I totally agree with you and have been saying that it's my worst fear for this off season.  Where instead of Arte spending on a guy like Ray or Stroman, we're gonna make that drastic trade and move Marsh or Adell for two years of someone.   Then, we'll have that pitching everyone has been pining for even though our pitching wasn't that bad last year.  And then well have a lineup that has Upton, Rengifo and Fletcher with backup of Jose Rojas and Gosselin and Wade and Lorenzen.  And then we'll wonder why the bottom of the lineup is a black hole and we lead the league in runners left in scoring position.  Then a couple times a month Fletcher will slap a double down the line on a pitch at his eyes and people will get all hot and bothered.  

Being an Angel fan is hard 

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Erstad Grit said:

better than the Kevin James UFC movie. I lasted about 12 minutes into that. 

Must have had good lube.

[ettin]

3 hours ago, Erstad Grit said:

better than the Kevin James UFC movie. I lasted about 12 minutes into that. 

 

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

Must have had good lube.

Well, quite frankly, that was not the performance that carried the movie.

[BTH]

5 hours ago, mmc said:

Think this is where we end up seriously pivoting to.

I hope so, but I don't think it's likely.

[tdawg87]

At this point I expect the Angels to trade Marsh, Detmers, Bachman, and Suarez for Gray.

[HanfordGuy]

How high could Castillo’s price be???

Damn it!!!

[HanfordGuy]

3 hours ago, Jason said:

Being an Angel fan is hard 

Harder than Chinese calculus.

[Lou]

Just now, HanfordGuy said:

Harder than Chinese calculus.

You lost 96% of AW at calculus.

[HanfordGuy]

4 hours ago, tdawg87 said:

I hope it isn't an Adam Sandler movie.

[HanfordGuy]

5 hours ago, ettin said:

I like Mahle.

[HanfordGuy]

15 minutes ago, Lou said:

You lost 96% of AW at calculus.

[Vlad27Trout27]

I'd rather us trade for grey!