MLB to require vaccinations for all minor league players starting in 2022

[AngelsFaninGA]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

There's a difference between the "horse paste/de-wormer" version of ivermectin and the version that has been approved for/used on humans.  People have essentially been "over-dosing" because they're too stupid to realize that the dosages for the two versions are very different.  That's the danger in people listening to these crackpots who are pushing ivermectin.

Absolutely, but the narrative that I've heard at least has been exclusively "haha horse dewormer what a bunch of idiots lol." I've yet to hear "Ivermectin may help but make sure to seek the advice of a doctor who can prescribe it in the proper dose." So it's just low-effort talking points from each side. 

It would be nice to actually be presented with information and allowed to make the decision ourselves, but instead we have both sides going nuts followed by mandates. Yes the majority of people in this country, regardless of political affiliation, are complete idiots, but for the remainder it would be nice to have some autonomy.    

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

Absolutely, but the narrative that I've heard at least has been exclusively "haha horse dewormer what a bunch of idiots lol." I've yet to hear "Ivermectin may help but make sure to seek the advice of a doctor who can prescribe it in the proper dose." So it's just low-effort talking points from each side. 

It would be nice to actually be presented with information and allowed to make the decision ourselves, but instead we have both sides going nuts followed by mandates. Yes the majority of people in this country, regardless of political affiliation, are complete idiots, but for the remainder it would be nice to have some autonomy.    

Regardless, ivermectin doesn't help prevent COVID (at least not that I've seen): it may have some use as a treatment once you get COVID.  That's a separate issue from the vaccine, which is preventative and a mitigator.

[tdawg87]

I can't wait until Scotty sees this thread and it gets almost immediately moved.

[Taylor]

2 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I can't wait until Scotty sees this thread and it gets almost immediately moved.

10/10 chance he brings up his favorite topic, race.

[Chuck]

57 minutes ago, greginpsca said:

Wrong on all counts

Go pound sand then. You're not changing my opinion. I don't care to change yours! 

[Chuck]

35 minutes ago, Taylor said:

QAnon also isn't a monolithic group.

There is is! I was waiting for a crazy lib to include Trump or QAnon in this thread. 

You guys are so predictable.

[Dtwncbad]

1 hour ago, Angelsjunky said:

Again, neither of these line up with the covid vaccine in any meaningful way.

I personally don't think that seatbelts should be mandated, even if they obviously save lives. 

As for your second one, that's just silly and has no relationship to vaccines.

The better analogy would be helmet laws.  You can debate whether there should be helmet laws for motorcycles.  But with the Covid vaccine they want everyone to be mandated to get the vaccine.

We don’t mandate people driving inside SUVs wear helmets.  Why?  They are not in the same risk group for head injuries as motorcycle riders.

With Covid, especially now with many good treatments available if you do get it, not everyone is even close to being in the same risk group.  If you are not over 70 and you are not obese, then your risk is minuscule.

We don’t see pro-helmet motorcycle riders demanding people driving SUVs wear helmets.

So why do we see vaccinated people demanding 15 year olds get vaccinated?

And the tired argument that the 15 year old needs to vaccinated to protect the obese 70 year olds is just absurd.  The vaccine is available and free so the 70 year obese person can get them self vaccinated.

The only reason to get the vaccination is that you believe it will protect you when you get exposed to the virus.  The vaccine is not supposed to prevent you from being exposed.  It is the exact opposite.

Hey if we all wear helmets, including SUV drivers, then nobody on a motorcycle will ever get into an accident!

[tdawg87]

6 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

The vaccine is not supposed to prevent you from being exposed.  It is the exact opposite.

[Angels 1961]

Trump got the vaccine on January 6th and that's no lie

[PattyD22]

I'm wondering what the repercussions are if an MLB player refuses to get the vaccine?  Is he suspended without pay?  Is he on the IL, in which he'll get paid? 

I think this will play into the decision of a lot of players who draw a line in the sand between "I don't want the vaccine because I've already had COVID and don't feel it's necessary because I probably have the antibodies already" and the group who's stance is "Eff the government.  It's my body and I'm not getting the vaccine because government mandates suck" group.

Kind of like what's going on with several large organizations right now.

Edited October 6, 2021 by PattyD22

[fan_since79]

2 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

See my previous post. The "science behind the COVID vaccine" is disputed by many scientists, doctors, nurses, and other health practitioners. But those disputes are censored and/or labeled as "conspiracy theory" or "pseudoscience" by those, such as yourself, who trust the mainstream media. 

This isn't about whether or not somebody "trusts the science," but whether or not someone trusts media and the anointed spokespeople for the science, e.g. Fauci, Gupta, Wen, etc.

The issue of Covid has been highly politicized, and at this point it's about the media/government narrative. The "science is settled" line is said to shut up any questions or reservations about the experimental mRNA treatment which is not a real vaccine. The media also covers up much of the adverse effects reported by many, many people. Deaths too, shortly following the jab.

Anyway, that's all for the political forum to argue over infinitum.

Biden wants 98% of the population (his words) to get the shot, so MLB is simply following along.

[Revad]

If vaccines are a person choice so is abortion.  You can’t pick and choose.

[fan_since79]

If they're requiring the 'vaccine' I'm assuming that will include all the follow-up boosters which you just know are coming down the pike.

This thing will have no end. And just on a tangent here...there are real scientists who believe that the frenzy for vaccines and boosters might actually be helping the virus to mutate as evolution takes over and variants develop to survive the vaccines. Kind of like antibiotics, which have been overprescribed and abused, thus  helping to create "superbugs".

[jsnpritchett]

Seems like Jeffrey Burnham might find some new friends and allies in this thread.

 

[AngelsFaninGA]

10 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

I'm wondering what the repercussions are if an MLB player refuses to get the vaccine?  Is he suspended without pay?  Is he on the IL, in which he'll get paid? 

I think this will play into the decision of a lot of players who draw a line in the sand between "I don't want the vaccine because I've already had COVID and don't feel it's necessary because I probably have the antibodies already" and the group who's stance is "Eff the government.  It's my body and I'm not getting the vaccine because government mandates suck" group.

Kind of like what's going on with several large organizations right now.

It is interesting how natural immunity is completely ignored. In Germany, and I imagine a lot of other countries, there is accommodation for successful recovery/antibodies when making policies. But then again, catching COVID, experiencing light symptoms that don't require treatment, and recovering naturally requires the least dependence on the healthcare system and is therefore the least profitable, so it makes sense. 

[T.G.]

I think the Angels should mandate that their minor league players not suck.

[Angelsjunky]

34 minutes ago, Revad said:

If vaccines are a person choice so is abortion.  You can’t pick and choose.

Who in this thread is doing so?

[Angelsjunky]

28 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Seems like Jeffrey Burnham might find some new friends and allies in this thread.

 

Um, is anyone in this thread saying to kill pharmacists?

 

[Angelsjunky]

1 hour ago, jsnpritchett said:

LOL.  Come on, man.  Really?  Their most well-known member is Stella Immanuel, who is certifiably batshit crazy.

"Immanuel's medical claims are sometimes combined with her spiritual beliefs: she believes many gynecological illnesses are the result of having sex dreams with succubi and incubi, and receiving demon sperm; and that endometriosis, infertility, miscarriages, and sexually transmitted infections are caused by spirit spouses.^[2][11] In a 2015 sermon, Immanuel said space alien DNA is used in medical treatments and that "reptilian spirits" and other extraterrestrials run the U.S. government.^[11][12] The same year, she also said Illuminati are using witches to destroy the world through abortion, gay marriage, children's toys, and media, including Harry Potter, Pokémon, Wizards of Waverly Place and Hannah Montana. In another 2015 sermon, she said scientists are developing vaccines to stop people from being religious.^[2][11]"

Spiritual beliefs are a way of interpreting phenomena, just as with any ideological perspective - including that of orthodox science.

One person sees "toxins" another "demons." Who cares, if they know how to treat it.

Anyhow, I don't follow the advice of the FLD, just citing them as examples of MDs who aren't for the vaccines. There are tons others, as well as other folks whose advice I do take serious, but aren't "reputable," according to Taylor.

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Um, is anyone in this thread saying to kill pharmacists?

 

I read on Reddit that someone said they were.

[Inside Pitch]

First, I appreciate how civil you guys have kept this and I've enjoyed the insight into peoples opinions but FFS, I just keep hearing "Hang the DJ, hang the DJ" as I read along. 

Damn you Morrissey and your catchy meloncholy!

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

So if you have a MLB not vaccinated send him to minors he has to get shot?

Our minor leaguers will probably have to share the needle, based on the taco bell article.

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Our minor leaguers will probably have to share the needle, based on the taco bell article.

This is effed up ....  Hilarious!

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

LOL.  Come on, man.  Really?  Their most well-known member is Stella Immanuel, who is certifiably batshit crazy.

"Immanuel's medical claims are sometimes combined with her spiritual beliefs: she believes many gynecological illnesses are the result of having sex dreams with succubi and incubi, and receiving demon sperm; and that endometriosis, infertility, miscarriages, and sexually transmitted infections are caused by spirit spouses.^[2][11] 

(Makes note to download some alice cooper music)

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

sex dreams with dinosaurs

And here we finally have the explanation about why they all end their names with "sore ass".....

 

 

 

 

 

 

(This is my AW magnum opus post)