Ohtani: "...like the team. Love the fans...but more than that, I want to win. I'll leave it at that."

[T.G.]

29 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Im for grabbing scherzer from the dodgers this winter, not for Ohtani, but Grienke payback.

Welcome back!

[angelsnationtalk]

12 hours ago, Stradling said:

After seeing what I’ve seen offensively from Fletcher this year I wouldn’t be surprised if Rengifo outperforms him with the bat next year. 

I'd be shocked if this statement becomes true. I can't stand Rengifo. 

[angelsnationtalk]

10 hours ago, fanfromday1 said:

One solution that everyone seems to be avoiding is - if Ohtani feels that this team isn't a winning organization, why don't the Angels trade him while his trade value is in the stratosphere? I'm sure he would bring back a boatload of prospects or even a couple of quality arms. (not that I'm in favor of that scenario). 

Because of this guy....

[Angels 1961]

15 minutes ago, angelsnationtalk said:

Because of this guy....

I agree to many ifs going into 2022. DH coming to NL so his value will never be higher. Angels low balled him with that 2 year for 8 mill. Package him with Trout. Be like trading Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle in same deal. 

[angelsnationtalk]

6 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

I agree to many ifs going into 2022. DH coming to NL so his value will never be higher. Angels low balled him with that 2 year for 8 mill. Package him with Trout. Be like trading Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle in same deal. 

I don't know if you're joking with me or not. But the contract Ohtani got was fair at the time. He was just coming off TJ surgery and only pitched 1.2 disastrous innings. The Angels giving him more money than what his Arb years would have given him was a gift. Basically they told him we will give you a raise but we want you to prove it. At this point, he's proved in every aspect that he should get a new contract.

If the Angels don't do s*** for the next two years then sure, trade them. But not now. 

[DCAngelsFan]

fwiw

[Stradling]

5 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

And therein lies the problem.

Arte’s 3 million fans fetish from having fans see superstar slugging, not understanding that pitching and defense get you into the post-season, which is what the fans flock to see anyway.

As for the “he offered Cole $300 million”, something tells me he knew the Skanks would outbid him anyway and that Cole grew up a Skanks fan.   He simply thought it made him look good to make the offer.

He has ZERO intention of EVER signing a superstar FA pitcher.

Watch him sign one of the superstar SSs, most of which have injury pasts (Seager and Correa) or crappy OBP (Baez).

It would be the most Arte Moreno thing to do.

Pujols, Hamilton, Upton, Rendon

Where’s the pitching?

 

Just stop 

[fan_since79]

15 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

The Ohtani Window is officially declared.

Two years, Perry, or he's gone.

The Dodgers' first $50 million player.

They've got bucks galore and know how to spend them.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, fan_since79 said:

The Dodgers' first $50 million player.

They've got bucks galore and know how to spend them.

So they’d give Ohtani the pitcher and pinch hitter $50 million?

[FromJapan]

15 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

 

I heard post-game interview to Ohtani-san in Japanese.

He said, "Well, of course I like the fans, and I also like the atmosphere of the team itself. However, more than that, I have a stronger desire to win the game, and I think that makes more sense as a player."

From 2:08 to 2:26

[Taylor]

These more accurate translations should be moved to the top of the thread and the thread closed.

[ten ocho recon scout]

24 minutes ago, DCAngelsFan said:

fwiw

Was gonna make a comment about this. Would be funny if its really Ippei making up what he said, knowing nobody will know the difference.

[ten ocho recon scout]

I wonder who added the "ill leave it at that" part.

[fan_since79]

15 minutes ago, Stradling said:

So they’d give Ohtani the pitcher and pinch hitter $50 million?

Assumes the DH is added to the NL.

Otherwise, Yankees or some other team with money and postseason prospects.

Everything could change if we get our act together and build a contender.

[Docwaukee]

It would be interesting if he made Billy Eppler his new agent.  

[AngelsFaninGA]

A lot is being made over nothing. Ohtani, like Trout, will very likely re-sign. That said, we'll remain an incompetent and losing organization. 

[Adam]

Sell high!

[AngelsFaninGA]

1 minute ago, Adam said:

Sell high!

The Padres are in complete disarray and probably can be coerced to do something rash. Trade him for Gore/Abrams/Hassell/Campusano and maybe even Paddack on top of that. 

[yk9001]

This is a frigging mess.

The most (seemingly) obvious solution is to throw money at big name FAs.  

Our track record doing this has been less than stellar.

[Justin]

I was hoping the actual translation would be something like "I want to win but Trout and Rendon are pussies who can't stay healthy."

It wouldn't be great for the organization but it would be a fun day on AW. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Justin said:

I was hoping the actual translation would be something like "I want to win but Trout and Rendon are pussies who can't stay healthy."

It wouldn't be great for the organization but it would be a fun day on AW. 

Rendon gets surgery on his hip.  Fat guys on AW, “pussy”

[Justin]

46 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Rendon gets surgery on his hip.  Fat guys on AW, “pussy”

Still not too bad compared to what was written about Simba one year ago. 

[Stradling]

3 minutes ago, Justin said:

Still not too bad compared to what was written about Simba one year ago. 

Yep, those people are assholes as well.

[jsnpritchett]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

These more accurate translations should be moved to the top of the thread and the thread closed.

So his official translator...didn't translate it "accurately?"  That's weird.  Maybe Ippei translated it in a way that he felt was more accurate to how he thinks/knows Shohei meant it?  But, yeah, not sure what else I could have done initially. 

[T.G.]

All baseball players want to win (except for Anthony Rendon who doesn't care).  What's the big deal?

 

 

Edited September 27, 2021 by True Grich