Who should the Angels #1 starting pitcher free agent target be?

[Dtwncbad]

Yes the Angels need to be aggressive in their attempt to sign the right starting pitching.  But I hope they are equally willing to acquire what they need through a trade.

 

[Angels 1961]

14 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Buyer beware on DeSclafani, I originally wanted for them to pursue him, and then I saw the near 5.00 post-ASB ERA.

Last 4 starts 6er in 24 inn.Sometimes 1 back outing can kill era

[Stradling]

At some point, with Trout, you have to push all of your chips in.  They have pushed chips in, but never all of their chips.  What does this look like?  Hopefully just spending money and getting the very best you can in any given year.  So I would pick Scherzer.  I would much prefer that, than trading a guy like Detmers for someone in his prime like Castillo or Marquez.  If they did that the only reason would literally be to save a few bucks.  Scherzer also won’t have draft pick compensation attached to him because he was traded mid season.  It will probably cost something along the lines of what Bauer got.  

[Angel Oracle]

16 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Last 4 starts 6er in 24 inn.Sometimes 1 back outing can kill era

That is a good point.

Looks like he might have had a brief IL stint that possibly affected him from late July through late August (16.1 innings in 5 games, 13 ERs).

His ERA for the season outside of that one month period is 2.80.

Plus, as you mentioned, strong September so far 

[totdprods]

I put Stroman, because I feel he's the 'safest' of the group. 

But not gonna lie, Max Scherzer really, really sounds good, even if there's all this concern about money, age, etc. I just had to work on a Scherzer article and the more I researched him, the more I wanted him on the Angels next year.

[Lou]

Scherzer has given up more earned runs in 5 innings today than he had in his previous 8 starts. 

Exhaustion?

[T.G.]

Just now, Lou said:

Scherzer has given up more earned runs in 5 innings today than he had in his previous 8 starts. 

Exhaustion?

His decline has begun... just before he signs a big money deal with...

[jsnpritchett]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

Scherzer has given up more earned runs in 5 innings today than he had in his previous 8 starts. 

Exhaustion?

Coors Field.

[Taylor]

On 9/22/2021 at 10:27 AM, Tank said:

i'm voting for Justin Verlander.

We know.

[Lou]

42 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Coors Field.

Nope.  Exhaustion.

[Angels 1961]

4 hours ago, Lou said:

Scherzer has given up more earned runs in 5 innings today than he had in his previous 8 starts. 

Exhaustion?

His ERA in Colorado close to 6 before today

[Docwaukee]

Not sure why, but I don't trust that Gausman is gonna stay good.  

[TooCool]

Can't wait until we sign none of the above.

[jsnpritchett]

9 hours ago, TooCool said:

Can't wait until we sign none of the above.

He'd probably be better than some of the signings the Angels have made in recent years.

[Chuck]

Max Scherzer! 

[ScottandtheKid]

Not on the list and not my first choice, but how about signing Kikuchi if the Mariners don't pick up his option (which it looks like they won't)? He was an All-Star mid-season and reuniting him with Ohtani may help him get the magic back.

[greginpsca]

18 hours ago, Dochalo said:

Not sure why, but I don't trust that Gausman is gonna stay good.  

I don't think the Giants are going to let him get to Free Agency.

[Dtwncbad]

On 9/23/2021 at 11:29 AM, Stradling said:

At some point, with Trout, you have to push all of your chips in.  They have pushed chips in, but never all of their chips.  What does this look like?  Hopefully just spending money and getting the very best you can in any given year.  So I would pick Scherzer.  I would much prefer that, than trading a guy like Detmers for someone in his prime like Castillo or Marquez.  If they did that the only reason would literally be to save a few bucks.  Scherzer also won’t have draft pick compensation attached to him because he was traded mid season.  It will probably cost something along the lines of what Bauer got.  

Wouldn’t pushing all your chips in be signing Scherzer AND trading for a Castillo or Marquez?

Do both.  Have the sack to actually go get what you need.

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

Wouldn’t pushing all your chips in be signing Scherzer AND trading for a Castillo or Marquez?

Do both.  Have the sack to actually go get what you need.

Sure as long as Castillo doesn’t cost you arms. 

[Dtwncbad]

9 hours ago, Stradling said:

Sure as long as Castillo doesn’t cost you arms. 

Right.  Acquire Castillo for Taylor Ward and Scott Schebler.

Good plan.

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Right.  Acquire Castillo for Taylor Ward and Scott Schebler.

Good plan.

That’s what I said.  As usual your reading comprehension is infallible.  

[Junkballer]

On 9/24/2021 at 11:44 AM, ScottandtheKid said:

Not on the list and not my first choice, but how about signing Kikuchi if the Mariners don't pick up his option (which it looks like they won't)? He was an All-Star mid-season and reuniting him with Ohtani may help him get the magic back.

Welcome to the board.  The Angels really need to acquire high probability arms.  Unless Minasian sees something in the advanced measurables, like he did with Cobb last year, pinning hopes on his comfort zone with a certain teammate doesn't seem like a good strategy for pitching selections.  They have enough question mark arms as it is.

[Stax]

What top of rotation arm would want to come to a .500 team? They all want a ring and a .500 team cannot offer that. The Angels tried numerous times in the past and lost out to teams with winning records. Artie needs to change his mind set or sell the team.

 

[Stradling]

18 minutes ago, Stax said:

What top of rotation arm would want to come to a .500 team? They all want a ring and a .500 team cannot offer that. The Angels tried numerous times in the past and lost out to teams with winning records. Artie needs to change his mind set or sell the team.

 

Ones that believe they can get the team over the hump. 

[Dtwncbad]

6 hours ago, Stradling said:

That’s what I said.  As usual your reading comprehension is infallible.  

No reading comprehension issue at all.  I made a point and, be honest, you understood exactly what my point was, didn’t you?

Edited September 27, 2021 by Dtwncbad