The Next 16 Games

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

It also implies that this team is a little further off from contention than we’d like to think.

As is Seattle. 

[Inside Pitch]

7 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

It also implies that this team is a little further off from contention than we’d like to think.

Well, losing two MVP type players will ding you.  But it won't matter who they bring in if they continue to play trash defense.

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

As is Seattle. 

Seattle isn't really relevant 

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

Well, losing two MVP type players will ding you.  But it won't matter who they bring in if they continue to play trash defense.

For sure, but I think we might also need to adjust our expectations those those two going forward. With them next year maybe we are optimistically 10 games better? That puts them in contention but possibly still on the outside looking in... almost certainly outside if they are closer to their run differential than their actual record.

[Inside Pitch]

On 9/13/2021 at 12:44 AM, AngelsLakersFan said:

For sure, but I think we might also need to adjust our expectations those those two going forward. With them next year maybe we are optimistically 10 games better? That puts them in contention but possibly still on the outside looking in... almost certainly outside if they are closer to their run differential than their actual record.

Not sure I need to worry about adjusting my expectations given my view of the team and it's issues.

If I haven't made it clear with my incessant whining about the defense, I don't think better overall health (and getting those two back), is  the key to contending.  I'm genuinely less concerned about the team's talent level and their potential than I am them playing to their ability.  Two years running the defense has undermined everything else.  I have zero reasons to believe that will change.  

The bullpen needs to be addressed and they'll have some holes to fill at SS and C, but they really need to solve the defensive BS to turn it all around.

[AngelsLakersFan]

18 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Not sure I need to worry about adjusting my expectations given my view of the team and it's issues.

If I haven't made it clear with my incessant whining about the defene, I don't think better overall health (and getting chose two back), is  the key to contending.  I'm genuinely less concerned about the team's talent level and their potential than I am them playing to their ability.  Two years running the defense has undermined everything else.  I have zero reasons to believe that will change.  

The bullpen needs to be addressed and they'll have some holes to fill at SS and C, but they really need to solve the defensive BS to turn it all around.

Well yeah, everyone else but you 

We're definitely on the same page on this topic.

[eligrba]

23 hours ago, Stradling said:

As is Seattle. 

 

21 hours ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Seattle isn't really relevant 

Seattle is within striking distance to the wildcard with a 3 game series against Boston starting tonight.  They seem relevant to me.....and it really pisses me off.

[fan_since79]

White Sox magic number to get a playoff spot is nine. They'll be motivated to beat us this week.

Same with Oakland next weekend. They're 3 GB of the 2nd wild card right now.

[Stradling]

14 minutes ago, eligrba said:

 

Seattle is within striking distance to the wildcard with a 3 game series against Boston starting tonight.  They seem relevant to me.....and it really pisses me off.

The conversation was about something deeper than their record.  Seattle has a great record but their run differential is more like a team that should be 5 games under .500, and the Angels should be about 7 games under. 

[fan_since79]

3-3 so far. Not too bad.

We have a chance this weekend to really hurt the A's playoff hopes. 

[T.G.]

I effin' hate the A's

[Angel Oracle]

2.5 hours to first pitch, and Maddon being Maddon, hasn’t even announced who’s the starting pitcher yet.

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

2.5 hours to first pitch, and Maddon being Maddon, hasn’t even announced who’s the starting pitcher yet.

They just did. It’s Diaz. 

[SlappyUtilityMIF]

Get plenty of fluids!

[Taylor]

Just good enough to not qualify for a top 10 draft pick.

[stormngt]

On 9/12/2021 at 4:11 PM, jsnpritchett said:

They've still been outscored by 72 runs on the season (a worse differential than the Tigers and almost as bad as the Nationals).  They've played well in 1-run games, despite having a terrible bullpen.  It's a little fluky, to be honest.  They're playing about 5 games better than their run differential would indicate.  Only the Mariners are playing more above their expected level (well, technically Arizona is, too--but they're still awful...).

1 run games brings in Iglesias.  The middle bullpen would see to it the 1 run game turns into a 4 run game.

[HaloBronco]

On 9/10/2021 at 3:37 PM, fan_since79 said:

Without Trout it's just not the same.

Gee, I hope he comes back next year...

Yep, with you on that.

Let's just hope there is a full season next year (with the expiring CBA)......

[Lou]

On 9/12/2021 at 3:49 PM, WicketMaiden said:

This is a numerical impossibility (unless they tie a game): they either finish at .500 (81 - 81) or they finish 80-82, which is two games under .500. (Apologies for the pedantry, this season has reduced me to it.)

Best post of the thread. 

[Angels 1961]

Salary drive for players like Cobb and Cishek both I hope Angels resign. Players like Rengifo show they belong. Chance for some in bullpen to get good look. Some fans hoping for call  up of a favorite player in minors (B Davis, Stefanic or Danish.

[Angel Oracle]

3-5 halfway through 

[fan_since79]

3-7 now. 

Angels' wild card elimination number is 1. 

 

[Lou]

9 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

3-7 now. 

Angels' wild card elimination number is 1. 

 

We're buyers!

[fan_since79]

One loss or one win by Toronto and we are eliminated.

I hope we can hold off for another day or two. Get a damn winning streak started tonight! I want to go down fighting!!

 

[Angel Oracle]

3-8 so far

6-10 definitely looks too optimistic.

[Inside Pitch]