2021-22 CBA Negotiation/Lockout Thread (DEAL IS AGREED TO)

[Dtwncbad]

14 hours ago, Stradling said:

You guys are super gay. Sorry, but no I’m not fucking dtwn.  

Don’t be so sure.  I am very, very sexy in a grown up Vanilla Ice way.

[Stradling]

9 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Don’t be so sure.  I am very, very sexy in a grown up Vanilla Ice way.

Fuck, decisions, decisions.  

[Dtwncbad]

3 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Fuck, decisions, decisions.  

I just figured if you had anything in common with In N Out fries that suck, you were probably game.

[Docwaukee]

this thread is progressively getting worse every time I check it. 

[eligrba]

43 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

this thread is progressively getting worse every time I check it. 

Nearing awkwardness.  May need an adult to intervene.

[Angels 1961]

Looks like some progress in today's meeting. That's good news for all AW members, as I could be back at the start of spring training season

[WicketMaiden]

 

25 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Looks like some progress in today's meeting. That's good news for all AW members, as I could be back at the start of spring training season

Updating your self-ban status whilst serving a self-ban (for very good reason btw) should carry a self-ban extension of at least a week of Spring Training.

[Dtwncbad]

38 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

Looks like some progress in today's meeting. That's good news for all AW members, as I could be back at the start of spring training season

Except you didn’t mention that today both sides agreed to have your ban expire at the All-Star break.

[mmc]

 

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[mmc]

 

[mmc]

[Taylor]

MLB should just STFU and give the players what they want. 

[beatlesrule]

So what is the general consensus as to which side will have to concede more than the other? Are there issues that both sides have stated they will not budge on? I have not paid too much attention to the labor issues but are there certain things that either the MLBPA wants or the MLB wants that are the main concerns? It's easy to just sum this up as it's about money but I thought a main sticking point was the PA wanted players to get to FA faster but it looks like that's been withdrawn already. I would love to see players getting to FA in 4-5 years so I guess it's back to 6 now and left unchanged? That didn't last long.

[Angels 1961]

2 hours ago, WicketMaiden said:

 

Updating your self-ban status whilst serving a self-ban (for very good reason btw) should carry a self-ban extension of at least a week of Spring Training.

I will accept self-ban of 4 days after 1st game of spring training

[aznhockeyguy]

56 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

So what is the general consensus as to which side will have to concede more than the other? Are there issues that both sides have stated they will not budge on? I have not paid too much attention to the labor issues but are there certain things that either the MLBPA wants or the MLB wants that are the main concerns? It's easy to just sum this up as it's about money but I thought a main sticking point was the PA wanted players to get to FA faster but it looks like that's been withdrawn already. I would love to see players getting to FA in 4-5 years so I guess it's back to 6 now and left unchanged? That didn't last long.

I don't know what the MLBPA is wanting after dropping the FA concern.  It was one of their main sticking points.  It looks like the union is focusing on teams to spend more on the non-superstar players in free agency and has purposed a spending minimum for every team while also increasing the tax threshold for teams.  I'm not sure where things stand on that based on what I'm reading.   The best way to get mediocre players paid in free agency is to A) lower the FA time and arbitration time and B) increasing the minimum salary because with analytics, it usually favors younger cheaper players.  If these two things happen the wage gap between rookies and mediocre FAs will be lower and teams have to pay market rates for a bit more production.  Not saying budget teams will stop trading away expensive players, but it won't happen as often.

Other items that players might be asking for: Further tweaks to the draft picks attached when a team signs a free agent to further incentivize teams to sign FAs and not worry about losing draft picks.  Adding a lottery system/not allowing teams to get 3 consecutive top 3 picks to disincentivize tanking.   This is all speculation on my part, but I've read that a few these items are what players are asking for.

[mmc]

 

[jsnpritchett]

2 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

 

[Taylor]

Does this mean they've reached a deal?

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

Does this mean they've reached a deal?

Let's ask @Dtwncbad's wife if the screw is out of the tire yet.

[mmc]

14 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Does this mean they've reached a deal?

 

[Dtwncbad]

3 hours ago, jsnpritchett said:

Let's ask @Dtwncbad's wife if the screw is out of the tire yet.

How oddly unpredictable.  Things are getting done with the pressure of a deadline looming.

Gee, who could have predicted that?

[jsnpritchett]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

How oddly unpredictable.  Things are getting done with the pressure of a deadline looming.

Gee, who could have predicted that?

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

How oddly unpredictable.  Things are getting done with the pressure of a deadline looming.

Gee, who could have predicted that?

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

How oddly unpredictable.  Things are getting done with the pressure of a deadline looming.

Gee, who could have predicted that?

Really?  Things are getting done?  ok.