2021-22 CBA Negotiation/Lockout Thread (DEAL IS AGREED TO)

[mmc]

So let's use this thread to post all news related to the ongoing negotiations with the union and owners that has a very real chance of leading to shortened 2022.

[Angel Oracle]

As far as I’m concerned, this is on the hardliners amongst the owners.

If they can’t handle MLB finances, maybe they should sell their teams?

Tony Clark deserves some blame too, for allowing too many concessions to the owners and feeding their egos.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

If they can’t handle MLB finances, maybe they should sell their teams?

I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous statement.

[Angel Oracle]

9 minutes ago, Lou said:

I'm sorry, but this is a ridiculous statement.

How?

An increasing number of owners refuse to spend money, hence the numerous tank jobs that occur now.

Could have close to 1/3 of the teams losing at least 90-95 games.

Edited September 2, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[Lou]

8 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

How?

An increasing number of owners refuse to spend money, hence the numerous tank jobs that occur now.

Could have close to 1/3 of the teams losing at least 90-95 games.

Most owners spend plenty. 

Teams tank in order to get higher draft picks. Funny how people here continually advocate us tanking as soon as it appears certain we won't make the playoffs. Does that mean Arte refuses to spend money? 

[Lou]

I'm guessing 8-10 teams lose 90+ games every year. 

[Tank]

@Angel Oracle what do you see as the main issues to be addressed this time around?

[Lou]

2 minutes ago, Tank said:

@Angel Oracle what do you see as the main issues to be addressed this time around?

The answer to everything is that the owners need to spend more money. 

[Inside Pitch]

I have the utmost faith that ownership and the MLBPA will happily engage in productive conversations in order to negotiate an agreement in the best interest of the sport.  Look no further than how the two sides have put aside their differences and self interests to make it better for mine leaguers.  We should hear about a joint Taco Bell MiLB venture anyway now.... 

Also once the CBA gets done, Manfred and the MLBPA will team up to finally bring peace to the Middle East.

[Inside Pitch]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

The answer to everything is that the owners need to spend more money. 

That, and kill whitey.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

That, and kill whitey.

Ok, now I'm conflicted. 

[Tank]

6 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

I have the utmost faith that ownership and the MLBPA will happily engage in productive conversations in order to negotiate an agreement in the best interest of the sport.  Look no further than how the two sides have put aside their differences and self interests to make it better for mine leaguers.  We should hear about a joint Taco Bell MiLB venture anyway now.... 

Also once the CBA gets done, Manfred and the MLBPA will team up to finally bring peace to the Middle East.

no mention of their pronouns or whether white guys can wear dreadlocks?

[Inside Pitch]

Gee....   Did they really Jon?

It's going to be a lot of fun watching Buster Posey be his usual shill for ownership while Heyman does his usual proxy for Scott Boras routine

[Inside Pitch]

3 minutes ago, Tank said:

no mention of their pronouns or whether white guys can wear dreadlocks?

I figured I'd discuss those things with you over luncheon on Tuesday before sharing those thoughts with the little people...

[Catwhoshatinthehat]

 

3 minutes ago, Tank said:

no mention of their pronouns or whether white guys can wear dreadlocks?

Kenny Powers is paving the way

[Inside Pitch]

6 minutes ago, Lou said:

Ok, now I'm conflicted. 

This should help

[fan_since79]

If the season is canceled next year, the positives will include Trout and Rendon having plenty of time to get well and be raring to go in 2023. 

[Angel Oracle]

48 minutes ago, Lou said:

The answer to everything is that the owners need to spend more money. 

Plus do other things more player friendly, like only have 3 game series with one off day per week, and like both having a tax threshold and having minimum payroll threshold.

Reasonable things

The owners are acting like they want to lock out players.

They actually want to lower the salary cap/threshold/whatever to $180 million?  You don’t go backwards.

No FA until age 29.5?   With regards to the young players who start MLB career in early 20s, again, you can’t go backwards.

Edited September 2, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[eligrba]

Don't care...it might make me forget about the disconnect between what the Angel's front office says and what they do.

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

Gee....   Did they really Jon?

It's going to be a lot of fun watching Buster Posey be his usual shill for ownership while Heyman does his usual proxy for Scott Boras routine

Dumb ass

[beatlesrule]

I don't think there will be a strike. The only strike in December I plan on seeing is this one

[gotbeer]

Billionaires squabbling with millionares.  If they really cared about the game, they would find a way to increase the money that Rookie, A, and AA players make.  Oh, and not screw the fans in the ass anymore.

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Dumb ass

Good call....  I meant the ESPN guy.

[tdawg87]

Does anyone want to breastfeed me?

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 hours ago, Inside Pitch said:

Gee....   Did they really Jon?

It's going to be a lot of fun watching Buster Posey be his usual shill for ownership while Heyman does his usual proxy for Scott Boras routine

29.5... so right at the sell by date.