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5 MLB players to testify that Eric Kay supplied them with drugs


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31 minutes ago, eaterfan said:

Ummm... This wasn't cocaine. It was pain killer which Angels doctors may have put him on to start with. I'm not sure how much you have been following the issues with Oxycotin, but the company knowingly lied about how addictive it was. I'm not saying the team doctors are responsible for knowing about it either, but when a Dr. prescribes medicine for you, and you take it, you may be addicted before you know it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/health/purdue-pharma-opioids-settlement.html

Correct and a responsible adult will seek help when they have a problem 

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59 minutes ago, bruin5 said:

I think Rob Manfred will have to weigh in on this case.  In essence, it seems like the Angels had a drug distribution ring going that maybe a single executive, maybe more, had knowledge.  This may be the thing that actually gets Arte removed as owner.  Can MLB really afford to take this type of publicity hit?  Either way, Manfred can’t ignore this. 

This is the Angels, the OTHER team in LA. MLB will be fine 

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1 hour ago, Mark68 said:

If this is true (and I have no reason to doubt the veracity of this story), the whole front office shares in the blame. There should be a housecleaning of every executive who was here while that was going on, because this sounds like an open secret that the Carpino, Mead, et al. had to be aware of. If they weren't, then they should be held accountable for their lack of awareness. There is no excuse. Everyone who was in the front office while this was happening, Carpino on down, needs to be sacked. 

I would say that Arte needs to sell the team as well, but I know that he won't, as the value has surely dipped because of this scandal--and because the team is...mediocre.

I think it's important to separate what the feds say in their affidavits vs what the family attorney is claiming.  

The attorney, Kay, his family - every one of them has an interest in the placing the blame on the Angels and we've certainly seen how these claims can get exaggerated until the actual court date.  

And I find it a little difficult to believe that multiple family members took it upon themselves to call Tim Mead and tell them Kay was supplying drugs to players - presumably, to get him fired?  How would it be in Mead's interest to ignore that info?  He'd have to know how much big a risk he'd be taking by deliberately ignoring it - and for what?  To risk his career and the lives of players to protect some scumbag?? 

However, If it can be more-or-less proven that they *did* tell Mead this, and he swept it under the rug, then all hell will break loose - Skaggs' family wins their case, multiple players get outed for using illegal prescription pain-killers - I think there'd be a fair chance MLB would sanction the club.

 

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2 hours ago, eaterfan said:

Ummm... This wasn't cocaine. It was pain killer which Angels doctors may have put him on to start with. I'm not sure how much you have been following the issues with Oxycotin, but the company knowingly lied about how addictive it was. I'm not saying the team doctors are responsible for knowing about it either, but when a Dr. prescribes medicine for you, and you take it, you may be addicted before you know it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/health/purdue-pharma-opioids-settlement.html

Yes, but depending on the form of fentanyl, that could be construed as illegal.

Illegal fentanyl is sold in the following forms: as a powder, dropped on blotter paper like small candies, in eye droppers or nasal sprays, or made into pills that look like real prescription opioids. Illegal fentanyl is being mixed with other drugs, such as cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, and MDMA.

Fentanyl DrugFacts | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)

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3 hours ago, bruin5 said:

First, it seems like they have good information that Mead was told by the family.  

Second, this isn’t a court of law.  Arte voluntarily joined an association. I’m sure he signed documents detailing ownership and reputational responsibilities.  Manfred probably needs some percentage of the other owners to agree and Arte is gone. 

Not going to happen. 

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Angels of course claim they've been completely cooperative. 

"This subpoena sought: “Any of all documents, records, reports, and information made, commissioned, or obtained by Angels Baseball, LP regarding the distribution of drugs by any Angels Baseball, LP employees or contractors or otherwise within the organization.”

The request takes on new relevance in light of last week’s court filing by prosecutors saying “approximately” five Major League Baseball players would testify to receiving oxycodone from Kay between 2017 and 2019.

“Documents or electronically stored information in the Angels’ possession that discusses Kay’s history as an abuser of opioids, Kay delivering drugs to members of the [Angels] organization, including [Skaggs], and Kay’s actions in the days and weeks that followed [Skaggs’] death are relevant,” the motion said. “Similarly, documents or electronically-stored information in the [Angels’] possession discussing people other than Kay unlawfully distributing drugs to players or others in the organization would almost certainly prove relevant to Kay’s defense.”

The motion said the Angels asked in a letter a week later that the subpoena be withdrawn, alleging responsive records were “shielded from discovery by the attorney-client privilege” and that prosecutors were seeking “all records” of the internal investigation conducted by Neuman after Skaggs’ death.

“Indeed, the Angels have taken the extreme position that every single document responsive to the subpoena is protected by the work-product doctrine,” the motion said. “The Angels have sought to shroud in the work-product doctrine any documents, reports, or records or communication made or obtained (even before and) after [Skaggs] died but before it engaged outside counsel to prepare for litigation.”

The Angels eventually turned over two declarations and a privilege log — detailing responsive documents they didn’t turn over because of attorney-client privilege — the government described as “skeletal” and “apparently missing entries.”

“For example, the log was silent as to any discussions — about [Skaggs] — between the Angels and the Commissioner of Major League Baseball, and … the government has learned that the Angels and Commissioner’s Office have communicated on this topic,” the motion said.

The motion added: “In a recent call with the government, counsel for the Commissioner’s Office stated that her client would not answer questions about the content of those communications unless compelled to do so.”

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7 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Any pictures of Weaver wearing Adenhardts number while talking to Tim Mead because that is the same fucking context, asshole. 

My guess is that he's referring to Kay being the guy who supplied Skaggs with the drugs that killed him, and he's in the dugout talking to the star player days after the death. 

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Doesn't matter. Kay in the dugout is what his job required for him to do. Trout had no knowledge of his participation in Skaggs death at that point. So the picture has zero meaning in this or any other discussion. It's just YK being a jerk. 

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6 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Doesn't matter. Kay in the dugout is what his job required for him to do. Trout had no knowledge of his participation in Skaggs death at that point. So the picture has zero meaning in this or any other discussion. It's just YK bring a jerk. 

I don't know why you're so pissy about this.  Again, my guess is that yk posted that because of KAY'S presence in the dugout, given what he did.  The fact that Trout is in the pic is incidental. 

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1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

I don't know why you're so pissy about this.  Again, my guess is that yk posted that because of KAY'S presence in the dugout, given what he did.  The fact that Trout is in the pic is incidental. 

Kay's a POS.  Being there like that is akin to those assholes who join search teams for people they knowingly murdered.

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13 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Kay's a POS.  Being there like that is akin to those assholes who join search teams for people they knowingly murdered.

Yeah I don't know how Kay can show his face in the dugout.

There's probably guys in that dugout who knew, maybe even Trout knew, that Kay supplied the drugs that killed their teammate.

 

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