5 MLB players to testify that Eric Kay supplied them with drugs

[eaterfan]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

Correct and a responsible adult will seek help when they have a problem 

Yeah, that's definitely how addiction works.

[Stradling]

39 minutes ago, cals said:

For once I’d love to see you overreact or jump to conclusions.

I probably jump to conclusions all the time.

[failos]

33 minutes ago, Hells Rainbow said:

I probably jump to conclusions all the time.

You only jump to conclusions about not jumping to conclusions. 

[Mark68]

2 hours ago, eaterfan said:

Ummm... This wasn't cocaine. It was pain killer which Angels doctors may have put him on to start with. I'm not sure how much you have been following the issues with Oxycotin, but the company knowingly lied about how addictive it was. I'm not saying the team doctors are responsible for knowing about it either, but when a Dr. prescribes medicine for you, and you take it, you may be addicted before you know it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/08/health/purdue-pharma-opioids-settlement.html

Yes, but depending on the form of fentanyl, that could be construed as illegal.

Illegal fentanyl is sold in the following forms: as a powder, dropped on blotter paper like small candies, in eye droppers or nasal sprays, or made into pills that look like real prescription opioids. Illegal fentanyl is being mixed with other drugs, such as cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, and MDMA.

Fentanyl DrugFacts | National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA)

[Lou]

3 hours ago, bruin5 said:

First, it seems like they have good information that Mead was told by the family.  

Second, this isn’t a court of law.  Arte voluntarily joined an association. I’m sure he signed documents detailing ownership and reputational responsibilities.  Manfred probably needs some percentage of the other owners to agree and Arte is gone. 

Not going to happen. 

[jsnpritchett]

Angels of course claim they've been completely cooperative. 

"This subpoena sought: “Any of all documents, records, reports, and information made, commissioned, or obtained by Angels Baseball, LP regarding the distribution of drugs by any Angels Baseball, LP employees or contractors or otherwise within the organization.”

The request takes on new relevance in light of last week’s court filing by prosecutors saying “approximately” five Major League Baseball players would testify to receiving oxycodone from Kay between 2017 and 2019.

“Documents or electronically stored information in the Angels’ possession that discusses Kay’s history as an abuser of opioids, Kay delivering drugs to members of the [Angels] organization, including [Skaggs], and Kay’s actions in the days and weeks that followed [Skaggs’] death are relevant,” the motion said. “Similarly, documents or electronically-stored information in the [Angels’] possession discussing people other than Kay unlawfully distributing drugs to players or others in the organization would almost certainly prove relevant to Kay’s defense.”

The motion said the Angels asked in a letter a week later that the subpoena be withdrawn, alleging responsive records were “shielded from discovery by the attorney-client privilege” and that prosecutors were seeking “all records” of the internal investigation conducted by Neuman after Skaggs’ death.

“Indeed, the Angels have taken the extreme position that every single document responsive to the subpoena is protected by the work-product doctrine,” the motion said. “The Angels have sought to shroud in the work-product doctrine any documents, reports, or records or communication made or obtained (even before and) after [Skaggs] died but before it engaged outside counsel to prepare for litigation.”

The Angels eventually turned over two declarations and a privilege log — detailing responsive documents they didn’t turn over because of attorney-client privilege — the government described as “skeletal” and “apparently missing entries.”

“For example, the log was silent as to any discussions — about [Skaggs] — between the Angels and the Commissioner of Major League Baseball, and … the government has learned that the Angels and Commissioner’s Office have communicated on this topic,” the motion said.

The motion added: “In a recent call with the government, counsel for the Commissioner’s Office stated that her client would not answer questions about the content of those communications unless compelled to do so.”

[tdawg87]

So happy this is the organization I follow.

[yk9001]

It's super hard to understand how an organization is run so poorly when the main requirement to work is being one of Arte's beer buddies from the University of Arizona.

[yk9001]

This is just a fantastic look for your franchise.  

Mike Trout, wearing a jersey to honor Tyler Skaggs, speaks to Eric Kay in the dugout before a game against the Seattle Mariners at Angel Stadium in July 2019.

(John McCoy / Getty Images)

[Blarg]

Any pictures of Weaver wearing Adenhardts number while talking to Tim Mead because that is the same fucking context, asshole. 

[jsnpritchett]

7 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Any pictures of Weaver wearing Adenhardts number while talking to Tim Mead because that is the same fucking context, asshole. 

My guess is that he's referring to Kay being the guy who supplied Skaggs with the drugs that killed him, and he's in the dugout talking to the star player days after the death. 

[Blarg]

Doesn't matter. Kay in the dugout is what his job required for him to do. Trout had no knowledge of his participation in Skaggs death at that point. So the picture has zero meaning in this or any other discussion. It's just YK being a jerk. 

[jsnpritchett]

6 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Doesn't matter. Kay in the dugout is what his job required for him to do. Trout had no knowledge of his participation in Skaggs death at that point. So the picture has zero meaning in this or any other discussion. It's just YK bring a jerk. 

I don't know why you're so pissy about this.  Again, my guess is that yk posted that because of KAY'S presence in the dugout, given what he did.  The fact that Trout is in the pic is incidental. 

[Inside Pitch]

Has the family commented whether they knew Skaggs was a drug abuser yet?

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, jsnpritchett said:

I don't know why you're so pissy about this.  Again, my guess is that yk posted that because of KAY'S presence in the dugout, given what he did.  The fact that Trout is in the pic is incidental. 

Kay's a POS.  Being there like that is akin to those assholes who join search teams for people they knowingly murdered.

[AngelsFaninGA]

9 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Kay's a POS.  Being there like that is akin to those assholes who join search teams for people they knowingly murdered.

I'm reminded of this picture from the recent Bryan Pata murder story (the guy circled being the one who killed him):

[Jay]

13 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Kay's a POS.  Being there like that is akin to those assholes who join search teams for people they knowingly murdered.

Yeah I don't know how Kay can show his face in the dugout.

There's probably guys in that dugout who knew, maybe even Trout knew, that Kay supplied the drugs that killed their teammate.

 

[DCAngelsFan]

17 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Kay's a POS.  Being there like that is akin to those assholes who join search teams for people they knowingly murdered.

And here I didn't think I could hold him in any more contempt ...

 

[yk9001]

57 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Any pictures of Weaver wearing Adenhardts number while talking to Tim Mead because that is the same fucking context, asshole. 

Take your meds this morning, gramps.

[Blarg]

Still got that bug up your ass?

[yk9001]

This entire joke of an organization.  Your starting pitcher (among others) goes on all night, potentially deadly opioid benders with the Director of Communications.  They fail to adhere to a subpoena.  Drug deals at Angels Stadium.

And the whole time, the team plays dumb.

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

Kay's a POS.  Being there like that is akin to those assholes who join search teams for people they knowingly murdered.

It was Kay's job to be in the dugout before and after games to arrange player interviews, it wasn't voluntary service. It does not relieve him of POS status. He knew his guilt but never turned himself in. 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

Has the family commented whether they knew Skaggs was a drug abuser yet?

Their claim is they told Mead that Kay was dealing so the only way they knew this was Skaggs involvement.  So far they didn't admit to having an intervention with their cash cow so it seems they have no real claim by allowing his drug abuse to continue under their roof. 

[jsnpritchett]

25 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Their claim is they told Mead that Kay was dealing so the only way they knew this was Skaggs involvement.  So far they didn't admit to having an intervention with their cash cow so it seems they have no real claim by allowing his drug abuse to continue under their roof. 

Pretty sure Kay's family claimed they reached out to Mead, not that Skaggs' family did (unless something about Skaggs' family doing something similar came out in earlier stories I'm not aware of).

[Stradling]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

Still got that bug up your ass?

If it makes Arte and the Angels look bad yk will definitely be the guy that wants to talk about it.