Official 2021 Trade Deadline Discussion Thread

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

So you think 5 years of Luzardo is equal to 5 years of Adell? I don't. Luzardo?

I think it is a good trade for both teams.

The A's are going for it. This year. Marte will take all those useless PA's away from Piscotty and Brown. And with the A's payroll constraints he found a way to not add payroll. He actually reduced it because he'll get rid of an Ofer now.

The Marlins were going to lose Marte anyway so maybe they get someone who can help down the road a little. Luzardo is not very good.

 

I have no idea if 5 years of Adell is equal to 5 years of Luzardo, but I am pretty sure 5 years of Luzardo is more valuable than 2 months of Marte.  

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

So you think 5 years of Luzardo is equal to 5 years of Adell? I don't. Luzardo?

I think it is a good trade for both teams.

The A's are going for it. This year. Marte will take all those useless PA's away from Piscotty and Brown. And with the A's payroll constraints he found a way to not add payroll. He actually reduced it because he'll get rid of an Ofer now.

The Marlins were going to lose Marte anyway so maybe they get someone who can help down the road a little. Luzardo is not very good.

 

So would you trade 5 years of Adell for two months of anyone?  

[Angelsfan1984]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

So would you trade 5 years of Adell for two months of anyone?  

I’d trade adell for 2 more months of Trout

 

 

[Dtwncbad]

36 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Because Brad Pitt is dreamy. 

I mean if I was, I would.

[Stradling]

Just now, Angelsfan1984 said:

I’d trade adell for 2 more months of Trout

 

 

The last two months of Trout?

[Inside Pitch]

11 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Because he hasn't improved in three seasons now, and even gotten worse. I'm not saying they should dump him or trade him away for nothing, but I do think it is valid to think his outlook has gone down a bit.

Plus, the Angels are all of a sudden relatively flush with young starters. Of course they want to hold onto them, and even more would be better, but I could see them packaging Canning with someone for a better starter.

And yet those "three seasons" amount to 209 innings, and in total he's been a league average pitcher.  Canning is less a failure than he is a pitching version of Howie.  People are letting their expectations alter their perception of him.  

Canning is kind of where John Lackey was after his third season... Viewed as a disappointment sporting a 100 ERA+...  Only over 300 fewer innings. 

In year four, he broke out.

[mmc]

 

[Angel Oracle]

37 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I wonder if @mmc is going to get any sleep over the next couple days.

Come through for us, buddy. This is all up to you.

[Taylor]

3 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

I mean if I was, I would.

If you were dreamy?

[Dtwncbad]

2 minutes ago, Taylor said:

If you were dreamy?

I am definitely dreamy.  Just sayin.

[Angelsjunky]

4 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

And yet those "three seasons" amount to 209 innings, and in total he's been a league average pitcher.  Canning is less a failure than he is a pitching version of Howie.  People are letting their expectations alter their perception of him.  

Canning is kind of where John Lackey was after his third season... Viewed as a disappointment sporting a 100 ERA+...  Only over 300 fewer innings. 

In year four, he broke out.

Which is why I was clear to say "I'm not saying they should dump him or trade him away for nothing, but I do think it is valid to think his outlook has gone down a bit."

I still expect Canning to be a solid mid-rotation starter, but people were talking #1-2. I think the over/under on him is a solid #3.

[Stradling]

For those frustrated that Perry hasn’t made a move yet, wouldn’t it make sense to wait till the last minute, until teams lose out on other arms, before trading off Raisel and Cobb?  

[Lou]

43 minutes ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

Trade 5 years of Adell for Luzardo? Hell no.

But I would definitely trade two months of Starling Marte for Luzardo.

 

 

39 minutes ago, Angels Fan Forever said:

He got Marte to shore up his outfield - Piscotty and Brown are out of the mix now.

And the Marlins are paying Marte's salary!! He continues to get more value for less than anyone in baseball. 

So Beane won the trade and lost the trade?

Something doesn't add up here.

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

For those frustrated that Perry hasn’t made a move yet, wouldn’t it make sense to wait till the last minute, until teams lose out on other arms, before trading off Raisel and Cobb?  

[Angelsfan1984]

15 minutes ago, Stradling said:

The last two months of Trout?

Any 2 months of Trout. 

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Any 2 months of Trout. 

Yes.

June and July 2021.

[Dtwncbad]

10 minutes ago, Stradling said:

For those frustrated that Perry hasn’t made a move yet, wouldn’t it make sense to wait till the last minute, until teams lose out on other arms, before trading off Raisel and Cobb?  

So Minasian should be the GM that lands the premium controllable arm today, and then be in the catbird seat to deal Cobb or Heaney.

[Angels 1961]

22 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I have no idea if 5 years of Adell is equal to 5 years of Luzardo, but I am pretty sure 5 years of Luzardo is more valuable than 2 months of Marte.  

Unless that puts you over the top for Oakland.

[Stradling]

Just now, Dtwncbad said:

So Minasian should be the GM that lands the premium controllable arm today, and then be in the catbird seat to deal Cobb or Heaney.

I would have no problem with that.  I do wonder what that “premium” controllable arm looks like.  If it is a cost controlled guy like Alacantra then they could still afford Ohtani’s extension.  If it isn’t then we might be in trouble shortly.

[Stradling]

Just now, Angels 1961 said:

Unless that puts you over the top for Oakland.

It doesn’t.  

[Lou]

This thread has convinced me to watch Soy Game again.

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Angels 1961 said:

Unless that puts you over the top for Oakland.

It doesn't.

[Stradling]

Just now, Lou said:

It doesn't.

You are off your game today

[Stradling]

Oakland is one game worse than the Angels since June 1st.  I doubt Marte is the difference to make them over take the Astros.

[Angels 1961]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

It doesn’t.  

It improves them for now and I'm sure other moves coming from Oakland. Remember Marlins paying rest of salary. Oakland has never seem to be short on pitching.