10 day suspensions coming for all pitchers caught using sticky substances

[T.G.]

 

[Stradling]

46 minutes ago, nate said:

That is not true at all.

Because it gives them more bite on their pitches which means more movement. It is not like the ball is slipping out of their hand otherwise.

That is what it has become but that isn’t how it originated 

[nate]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

That is what it has become but that isn’t how it originated 

Since pitchers are using a lot more than sticky/abrasive substances that really isn't the case. Vaseline or Sunscreen isn't going to give you more grip.

[Chuck]

This thread... 

 

[Angels in 2030]

Looks like the Angels suckage the past 5+ years might have been a lack of cheating (trying).  Royals, Yanks, Dodgers, Asstross, etc.

[Stradling]

14 minutes ago, nate said:

Since pitchers are using a lot more than sticky/abrasive substances that really isn't the case. Vaseline or Sunscreen isn't going to give you more grip.

Sunscreen and rosin absolutely gives you more grip. 

[Angels in 2030]

Chase Utley one of biggest cheaters....interesting.  Wouldn't have thought so.

[Blarg]

16 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

This thread... 

 

[AngelsLakersFan]

20 hours ago, bloodbrother said:

Suddenly taking a hard line stance and enforcing this midway into the season is some amateur shit. Not sure why MLB didn't just do this in the offseason

It's because they are looking at the offensive numbers this year and are shitting themselves.

[Angels in 2030]

28 minutes ago, Blarg said:

https://elitesportsny.com/2021/06/16/breaking-mlb-analyst-includes-yankees-judge-in-widespread-cheating-claims/

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3369272/ryan-spaeder-just-unleashed-a-shit-storm-of-cheating-allegations-against-mlb-players-and-clubs

[tomsred]

On 6/16/2021 at 12:28 PM, AngelsLakersFan said:

It's because they are looking at the offensive numbers this year and are shitting themselves.

Yep, when the league hitting average dips below the Mendoza line pitchers will have to pitch with straight jackets on.  I'm also surprised they haven't outlawed shifting in some fashion.

[Taylor]

On 6/16/2021 at 12:06 PM, Fourts said:

Chase Utley one of biggest cheaters....interesting.  Wouldn't have thought so.

Mac will be heartbroken.

[failos]

10 hours ago, Taylor said:

Mac will be heartbroken.

He likes Utley more now

[Taylor]

1 minute ago, gaylos said:

He likes Utley more now

"The Gang Gets MLB Players to Cheat"

[AngelStew43]

Cobb says that the Japanese ball is more tacky.  Maybe MLB should try it?  

Or maybe pitchers should try to keep the ball down, concentrate more on location, rather than spin rate.  

[Taylor]

Pitchers need to STFU and just pitch.

[ettin]

On 6/15/2021 at 3:55 PM, Don said:

The MLB baseballs I've actually held do seem too slick, IMO. And the seams are super low. It's been a few years, so maybe they're different for better or worse now. I just remember at one point comparing an MLB ball and a ball used in Big 12 play, and the difference in both the feel and the seams was massive.

Hi Don, you shouldn't handle any balls, @tdawg87hands to you, FYI.

[Stradling]

7 hours ago, AngelStew43 said:

Cobb says that the Japanese ball is more tacky.  Maybe MLB should try it?  

Or maybe pitchers should try to keep the ball down, concentrate more on location, rather than spin rate.  

There is a difference between wanting a better grip and wanting to use a substance to increase spin rate.  If you read the entire Cobb article he says he wants less spin because he is an off speed pitcher.  They need a universal solution, whether that is a more tacky ball or one specific go to substance to get a better feel for the ball.  

[Stradling]

Not sure if anyone has posted this but it is a 4 minute video that I thought was a good explanation from a former pitcher.  

 

[mmc]

Foreign substance era is officially over as the new protocols put in place begin starting today.

[ScottT]

Blah blah blah.

If you can't control the baseball...  go... do something else

[Stradling]

7 hours ago, ScottT said:

Blah blah blah.

If you can't control the baseball...  go... do something else

Pretty sure the point is no pitcher can control the ball as the ball is too slick. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

8 hours ago, ScottT said:

Blah blah blah.

If you can't control the baseball...  go... do something else

 

[mmc]

Joe Girardi, for no other reason than being hurt that his team is losing, made the umps check Scherzer for the second time in today’s game.  Scherzer stared him down and Joe left the dugout and got himself ejected.

 

[Blarg]

Girardi made an ass of himself.