General NHL Talk 2021-2022

[gotbeer]

And I wonder if this means anything for the Ducks.  Now the Sabres can dangle Eichel + 13th pick for Ducks 3rd pick + whatever else.  

[Pujols4MVP]

Flyers were rumored to trade for Manson but not after they got Ristolainen who absolutely horrifying defensively.

Well now teams that missed out on Risto will be calling Murray about Manson. Most likely a top 20 pick and prospect and or 2nd.

[gotbeer]

Blues acquire Pavel Buchnevich from Rangers for Sammy Blais, second-round pick

40+ point scorers only a second.  

[gotbeer]

Boom.

Oliver Ekman-Larsson, No. 9 Pick Involved in Blockbuster Canucks, Coyotes Trade

 

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23, 2021

Arizona Coyotes Acquire: Antoine Roussel · $3,000,000 Jay Beagle · $3,000,000 Loui Eriksson · $6,000,000 2021 1st round pick (VAN - #9) 2022 2nd round pick (VAN) 2023 7th round pick (VAN) Sum: $12,000,000 Change: +$4,740,000

Vancouver Canucks Acquire: Oliver Ekman-Larsson ($990,000 retained - 12%) · $7,260,000 Conor Garland · $0 (Signing Rights) Sum: $7,260,000 Change: -$4,740,000

 

 

[gotbeer]

Seth Jones Traded To Chicago Blackhawks

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Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman is reporting that defenseman Adam Boqvist is part of the return to Columbus. TSN’s Darren Dreger is reporting that the Blackhawks are also signing Jones to a eight-year extension worth $9.5MM per season.

Preliminary rumors.

[gotbeer]

Columbus Blue Jackets To Acquire Jake Bean

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 Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet reports that the Blue Jackets will acquire Jake Bean from the Carolina Hurricanes in exchange for a second-round pick.

 

[gotbeer]

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CONFIRMED TRADE »

Discuss this Trade »

 

Acquired:
Adam Boqvist
12th overall pick 2021
1st round pick 2022
2nd round pick 2021

 

Acquired:
Seth Jones,
32nd overall pick 2021
6th round pick 2022

 

[deepdrive]

And with the 3rd pick in the draft, the Ducks select a Chia Pet.

[deepdrive]

On 7/20/2021 at 2:33 PM, deepdrive said:

Yeah, I wasn't saying that's what they should do. I meant if they judged him as a future top goalie, I would think taking him at 3 in this draft would be ok.

I can just see five years from now, if he pans out, teams saying, "Wow, what if we had taken Cossa." Nothing more valuable in the playoffs than having the best goalie.

So, the guru of drafting - Yzerman - had everyone looking right (Wallstedt), he fakes at 6 (Edvinsson) and then goes left at 15.

Damn, I had a feeling about Cossa.

[gotbeer]

Good morning.

Sabres trade forward Sam Reinhart to Florida Panthers: Source

No details yet.

 

[gotbeer]

Montrealol.  

Canadiens Draft Logan Mailloux Following Conviction

 

[gotbeer]

Avs re-sign Cale Makar to six-year, $54M contract

 

[arch stanton]

I was hoping for 8 years but this is good and he still gets another big payday after the cap goes up again

[deepdrive]

Unless you're the player or his agent is there really an advantage to a longer contract?

I know the argument is it allows a team to sign a player for less each year, but I don't buy that. The way hockey is structured with 4 lines and a salary cap, I think paying too much for one player would falter enough that teams wouldn't do it for long.

It's not football with a quarterback or basketball with 5-6 guys playing the majority of the game, baseball with a star pitcher in the playoffs. The closest a player comes to that is the goalie and I don't know if they would over pay them that way. But maybe.

[arch stanton]

The advantage here is that Makar is 22 and already a Norris candidate and point a game Dman. You want him locked up through his prime. I would have been happy with 8 years and 10 mil. He'll be a 23 minute a night player going forward who  runs the PP, gets the O zone time with the top line, and carries the puck out of the D zone because he's the best skater on the ice. 

[gotbeer]

Zach Hyman Has Agreement In Place With Edmonton Oilers

 

Cam Atkinson Traded to Flyers from Blue Jackets for Jakub Voracek

[gotbeer]

Umm.  That sure does seem really light.

Florida Panthers Acquire Sam Reinhart

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The Sabres will receive Levi and a 2022 first-round pick in exchange for Reinhart.

https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/276555/devon-levi

Levi seems like a pretty good goaltending prospect.  But you know how goaltenders go.  But just a seventh round prospect and first rounder for Reinhart?

[deepdrive]

6 hours ago, arch stanton said:

The advantage here is that Makar is 22 and already a Norris candidate and point a game Dman. You want him locked up through his prime. I would have been happy with 8 years and 10 mil. He'll be a 23 minute a night player going forward who  runs the PP, gets the O zone time with the top line, and carries the puck out of the D zone because he's the best skater on the ice. 

Ok, so you have him for 23-29. You then do 30-36. A good range.

23-31 leaves you with a possible 32-38+. Who wants that? So, the only sensible thing you can do is let him go at that point. 

With 6 years, you have an insurance policy for the two additional two years left on the table. You can still resign him. It maybe more. But probably not that much. What's an insurance policy for 18M worth?

The six year contract lessons the risk, increases the percentage of years the player is highly motivated and is easier to move in the years of the second signing.

Pretty much every GM who's been around has or can show you contracts that were signed for too long a period of time. But, not too many that were for too short a period. You should go with probably. That means take a 5-6 over a 7-8 anytime you can get it.

My take at least.

[gotbeer]

Paul Stastny signs one-year, $3.75M deal to stay with Jets

 

Washington Capitals trade Brenden Dillon to Winnipeg Jets for second-round picks in 2022, 2023

 

Coyotes acquire Stralman, Kolyachonok from Panthers

 

[gotbeer]

Bruins don’t extend qualifying offers to Nick Ritchie, Ondrej Kase

 

[arch stanton]

MAF to Chicago?

[gotbeer]

43 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

MAF to Chicago?

Yeah, just saw that.  Also rumblings he could refuse and retire.

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2021/07/chicago-blackhawks-to-acquire-marc-andre-fleury.html

Also.

Vancouver Canucks' Nate Schmidt rejects trade to Winnipeg Jets

[gotbeer]

And in buyout news.

Edmonton Oilers To Buy Out James Neal

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• 2021-22: $1,916,667
• 2022-23: $1,916,667
• 2023-24: $1,916,667
• 2024-25: $1,916,667

San Jose Sharks To Buy Out Martin Jones

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• 2021-22: $1,916,667
• 2022-23: $2,416,667
• 2023-24: $2,916,667
• 2024-25: $1,666,667
• 2025-26: $1,666,667
• 2026-27: $1,666,667

Vancouver Canucks Expected To Buy Out Braden Holtby

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• 2021-22: $500K
• 2022-23: $1.9MM

 

[arch stanton]

Ovechkin signed for 5 yrs at 9.5 mil per. Same contract as Seth Jones. Chicago is gonna regret that one

[arch stanton]

Tampa dumped Tyler Johnson on Chicago. They had to throw in a 2nd rounder and take on Seabrook's LTIR